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Offline 56 kodiak shooter

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Bear grease
« on: March 25, 2022, 05:07:10 PM »
Is bear grease any good for rust prevention, thanks

Offline smylee grouch

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Re: Bear grease
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2022, 06:12:08 PM »
I know of people who use bear grease for  that and what ever you use one thing to make sure of is to have the area clean and dry before treating it.  ;)

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Re: Bear grease
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2022, 10:12:51 PM »
It'll work.
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Re: Bear grease
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2022, 12:31:15 AM »
It is also very good as a metal cutting / drilling lube!
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Re: Bear grease
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2022, 12:49:28 AM »
I have been using it for about a year now.  No rust or other issues noticed yet.  Bear oil sure is a good flintlock lube. 

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Re: Bear grease
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2022, 08:47:12 PM »
I have been told the 50th shot goes down as easy as the first shot with bear grease...but is it as accurate as the first shot? I guess what I am asking is how do you swab if ever when shooting a bunch? I suppose you could send down a clean patch with bear grease and then a dry patch to remove excess grease? Just trying to keep that hunting load accuracy up.

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Re: Bear grease
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2022, 08:59:09 PM »
I have been told the 50th shot goes down as easy as the first shot with bear grease...but is it as accurate as the first shot? I guess what I am asking is how do you swab if ever when shooting a bunch? I suppose you could send down a clean patch with bear grease and then a dry patch to remove excess grease? Just trying to keep that hunting load accuracy up.

 More than likely that different barrels will react differently.  An example might be deep grooves versus shallow grooves or 45 caliber versus 60 caliber. Patch type or thickness. 48 twist versus 66 twist.  You will probably have to find the sweet spot out on the range. 42 years of playing this game has taught me that there are very few constants..
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Re: Bear grease
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2022, 09:01:59 PM »
This tie breaker target was the 23rd shot, no wiping.
As you can see, I missed my 3rd and 12th on-target shots. Still won, though.
My first shot was a 'fouling" shot, not fired for score.
At Hefley Creek, the last shot of the trail is always the tie-breaker.

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Re: Bear grease
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2022, 03:39:11 PM »
I like bear grease. I have been using it since I got away from Teflon coated patches. I tried all sorts of different things.  Used Tracks mink oil and as far as I'm concerned it is interchangeable with bear oil. I can get bear oil from friends who hunt bears. A quart of it lasts a long time.
As far as your question as to the 50th shot being as accurate as the first, can only be determined by shooting at paper off of a bench , or cross sticks.
At least 50 yards.
However after 25 shots, fatigue will start to set in on the shooter, and that will impact accuracy. 25 well aimed shots take a lot of focus and adherence to shooting technique. If your accuracy is as good on the 25th shot as the first, you are good to go.
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Re: Bear grease
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2022, 05:03:51 PM »
alacran has nailed it. You can not determine REAL accuracy by shooting one good 5 shot group IMHO. Just about every one/gun can shoot a small group  but if the gun/load/shooter is really accurate it will shoot those small groups all the time. A good patch lube is part of that combination and bear grease is one of those lubes that doubles as a good after cleaning treatment.

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Re: Bear grease
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2022, 07:31:03 PM »
This tie breaker target was the 23rd shot, no wiping.
As you can see, I missed my 3rd and 12th on-target shots. Still won, though.
My first shot was a 'fouling" shot, not fired for score.
At Hefley Creek, the last shot of the trail is always the tie-breaker.


If bear grease performs even close this photo in my new Kibler .32 there will not be a squirrel left on the farm in short order.
    I will then have to drive North to a secret spot that is just Dirty with squirrel's to get my squirrel fix.
    I have all summer to work up my favorite load, good times are coming!
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Re: Bear grease
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2022, 10:51:40 PM »
No reason why it shouldn't but be aware, my load combinations require a short starter.
Looser loads may (most likely) not give you similar results.  When I shot this target, I
was using a .030" denim (12ounce) patch and a ball only .008" smaller than the bore.
To get those started into the bore, you have to want to get them started. Once started
they go down easily.
This load combination has .014" compression or the ball/patch in the bottom of each and every groove.
The compression by the lands, is .026".
« Last Edit: March 30, 2022, 10:56:12 PM by Daryl »
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Re: Bear grease
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2022, 04:45:16 PM »
I have bear grease and began to use it on patches. My clover-leaf groups with 7:1 ballistol/water dry lube opened up to hand-sized with bear grease. Same components otherwise, only the lube changed. Every rifle is different.

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Re: Bear grease
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2022, 08:44:52 PM »
Bear Grease VS spit for lube:
This testing was done in the late 1970's - Bill Large .58 barrel. The testing was for velocity comparison and velocity spread, shot to shot. Test was 10 shots, per load. No wiping at any time.

95gr. 2F GOEX, .575" 285gr. ball .022" denim patch
spit 1,424fps 48fps spread  B.Grease no vel. noted 97fps spread

140gr. 2F GOEX same ball and patch
spit 1,683fps 10fps spread  B.Grease 1,736fps 69fps spread - this load, with both lubes was my "Accuracy" load, however spit shot into just over 1" at 100 yards,  B.Grease shot 2".
This was repeatable.

160gr. 2F GOEX same ball and patch
spit 1,810fps 8 fps spread  B.Grease 1,867fps 74fps spread

185gr. 2F GOEX same patch and ball
spit - no data  B.Grease 1,951fps 42fps spread
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