Author Topic: D Border lock (Read 2860 times)

Rocky29? · « **on:** April 27, 2022, 09:10:12 PM »

Any thoughts about this lock.

LynnC · « **Reply #1 on:** April 27, 2022, 09:21:23 PM »

Borden or Bonden perhaps ?

JTR · « **Reply #2 on:** April 27, 2022, 10:36:04 PM »

Daniel Border, Bedford County, Pa.
Any chance you have the rest of the gun?

rich pierce · « **Reply #3 on:** April 27, 2022, 11:46:59 PM »

Can we get a full length view? Thanks for what you’ve shown so far.

mr. no gold · « **Reply #4 on:** April 28, 2022, 02:11:41 AM »

Heck of a nice D. Border, Bedford lock with the famous 'Bedford Rat Tailed' lock plate. Thank you for showing it. Do you have the rest of the rifle? Just asking for my friends here on the Forum.
Dick

onthehillbill · « **Reply #5 on:** April 28, 2022, 05:02:01 AM »

Dick is correct on all accounts in his reply. Very nice and thanks for showing it.

okieboy · « **Reply #6 on:** April 28, 2022, 07:32:53 AM »

Thank you. It is nice to get to see the internals of a classic original Bedford lock.

smart dog · « **Reply #7 on:** April 28, 2022, 01:15:32 PM »

Hi,
Nice lock and I do enjoy seeing the internals. It is well made for sure. I am curious about the cut out for the drum. I would love to see how the barrel fit there.

dave

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #8 on:** April 28, 2022, 04:33:12 PM »

Why does it have remnants of a flint fence on it?

lexington1 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 28, 2022, 05:29:03 PM »

I have wondered about the flintlock fence remains myself, but it seems to have been a decorative feature. Here are two Borders that have the same thing.

abcd 2 online

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2022, 05:34:57 PM »

Well that's odd.

lexington1 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 28, 2022, 05:47:16 PM »

It sure is. I've had two other Borders that were exactly the same way.

Rocky29? · « **Reply #12 on:** April 28, 2022, 06:13:40 PM »

Here are more pics

LynnC · « **Reply #13 on:** April 28, 2022, 06:18:57 PM »

Looks like the faux pan fence would provide some protection for the wood at the barrel breech

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #14 on:** April 28, 2022, 06:32:58 PM »

Is that a new stock?

Rocky29? · « **Reply #15 on:** April 28, 2022, 07:10:40 PM »

No it is not a new stock. I have been told and I believe this rifle was constructed from canalized parts from other rifles. I have removed the barrel( octagonal to round smooth bore) it is fastened with pins via staple, and soldered brass pieces drilled for through pins. There is one staple that has been removed that doesn't lineup to the existing pin holes.

I do believe this rifle was made during the latter half of the 19TH century.

I will post some pics from by phone

Rocky29? · « **Reply #16 on:** April 28, 2022, 07:35:15 PM »

utseabee · « **Reply #17 on:** April 29, 2022, 02:42:26 AM »

Quote from: lexington1 on April 28, 2022, 05:29:03 PM

I have wondered about the flintlock fence remains myself, but it seems to have been a decorative feature. Here are two Borders that have the same thing.

abcd 2 online

Here is a lock on a William Defibaugh that has the same flintlock fence

LynnC · « **Reply #18 on:** April 29, 2022, 04:53:36 AM »

Notice the thin forward shield on the Defibagh lock, evidently intended to keep the forward wood from being scorched. This may well be the reason for this unusual feature.

cshirsch · « **Reply #19 on:** May 01, 2022, 02:50:23 AM »

William Border. I have castings for this lock.

okieboy · « **Reply #20 on:** May 13, 2022, 07:19:37 AM »

Interestingly, there is an apparently orphaned D. Border lock for sale on ebay right now. Not sure how you value a separate piece like this, other than it is out of my budget for a lock.

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Robert Wolfe · « **Reply #21 on:** May 13, 2022, 03:45:13 PM »

Quote from: okieboy on May 13, 2022, 07:19:37 AM

Interestingly, there is an apparently orphaned D. Border lock for sale on ebay right now. Not sure how you value a separate piece like this, other than it is out of my budget for a lock.

It is the same piece.

Bob Roller · « **Reply #22 on:** May 13, 2022, 04:47:59 PM »

VERY basic lock mechanism and the only way to make it even more simple would be to not use a bridle.In the 1960's I made a few Bedfords for a man in Virginia whose name has long faded from my memory,Larry?

.I got the hammers from a man in Ohio and I think his name was Ken Roethlesberger.Does anyone make a Bedford lock now?
Bob Roller

JTR · « **Reply #23 on:** May 13, 2022, 05:49:00 PM »

For that price, I'm guessing someone has a D Border rifle without a lock.
Either that, or I'm really out old touch on the value of old signed locks.

okieboy · « **Reply #24 on:** May 14, 2022, 01:10:32 AM »

"It is the same piece."

I don't think so. It is very similar, but some of the ageing marks are different.

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