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Offline Terry Cheek

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SMR build photo update
« on: April 28, 2022, 01:58:39 AM »
These are current as of this afternoon, I’m not there yet but there seems to be progress. Comments or suggestions.

















« Last Edit: April 28, 2022, 02:08:54 AM by Terry Cheek »
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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2022, 02:38:20 AM »
The front finial of the trigger guard looks off center to me. A little heavy to the side plate side.
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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2022, 03:03:50 AM »
Looks good to me.  Just measuring the picture, it looks like the TG  could  be off center a very small amount, but I think a few  careful strokes on that side  on the bottom  half with some sandpaper would eliminate that effect.     
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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2022, 03:35:19 AM »
The front finial of the trigger guard looks off center to me. A little heavy to the side plate side.
That is called "folk art symmetry."

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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2022, 03:43:57 AM »
You’re right it is off center. And I will probably use sandpaper to make adjustments.
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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2022, 03:45:05 AM »
The front finial of the trigger guard looks off center to me. A little heavy to the side plate side.
That is called "folk art symmetry."
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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2022, 04:30:19 PM »
This isa Kibler SMR. How can the trigger guard be off center.
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2022, 04:58:11 PM »
Just measuring on my computer screen has it 1.5mm off center.  Not enough to bother with.  I'm with Dave.  I wouldn't worry about it.  You'll never see it from a moving horse.
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2022, 06:10:41 PM »
Only accurate way is measure it live to avoid camera angle distortion.
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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2022, 10:40:51 PM »
Is the touch hole really that low or is just the angle of the picture?

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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2022, 11:15:49 PM »
I’m pretty sure it’s the angle of the picture. I was concerned with showing the bolster to barrel fit. Trying to get the tightest fit possible. So far there are no comments, I take that as no news is good news. I will post better pictures of the touch hole. Thank you for asking.
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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2022, 11:32:15 PM »
Lock fit looks good now.
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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2022, 11:36:37 PM »
Lock fit looks good now.

Thank you Mike should I move on or do you think it can be improved?
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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2022, 12:15:12 AM »
Lock fit looks good now.

Thank you Mike should I move on or do you think it can be improved?
My vote is to move on.  We are running out of things to critique.  ;D
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2022, 12:19:36 AM »
Lock fit looks good now.

Thank you Mike should I move on or do you think it can be improved?
My vote is to move on.  We are running out of things to critique.  ;D
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Ok, back to the buttplate. I would like to tighten it up a little more.
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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2022, 03:25:23 AM »
Is the touch hole really that low or is just the angle of the picture?
Eric this may be a better picture of the touch role.


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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2022, 07:29:51 AM »
That picture does make the touch hole look a little low.

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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2022, 12:27:49 PM »
What’s been shown looks good.  Can always deepen pan area “if” there is any issues with ignition.
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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2022, 01:48:47 PM »
Symmetry in manufactured goods, was of no concern before the industrial revolution. Look closely at originals, you will find asymmetry is the norm.
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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2022, 03:51:06 PM »
The issue with the trigger guard being off-center slightly is my fault. When I opened the shipping crate and saw the level of precision in this project, I knew there was no way for me to maintain that precision with my limited experience. I am committed to not allowing my limited knowledge to hinder me in learning while doing my best not to discredit Jim Kiblers' excellent SMR kit. I apologize if I am aggravating or seem to lack confidence in my posts and pictures. I have always trained folks in my profession (electrical & electronic systems) to understand the only dumb question is one you don't ask. I don't want to ask a dumb question! Thank you to everyone who has and will give critique for my SMR project in the future. 
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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2022, 04:01:11 PM »
That picture does make the touch hole look a little low.

This is where we want the touch hole to be.  This idea of it only being good level with the top of the pan has been proven to be BS.  See Larry Pletcher's testing.  I believe his website is blackpowdermag.  If I recall correctly, ignition was found to be slightly faster with the hole at the bottom of the pan.  It's amazing how beliefs can get started with little footing and then can last and last.  He also found ignition to be faster with the priming piled against the touch hole.

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« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2022, 04:06:46 PM »
That picture does make the touch hole look a little low.

This is where we want the touch hole to be.  This idea of it only being good level with the top of the pan has been proven to be BS.  See Larry Pletcher's testing.  I believe his website is blackpowdermag.  If I recall correctly, ignition was found to be slightly faster with the hole at the bottom of the pan.  It's amazing how beliefs can get started with little footing and then can last and last.  He also found ignition to be faster with the priming piled against the touch hole.

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Thank you for the explanation.
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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2022, 04:12:20 PM »
I don’t know about you guys BUT this picture really turns me ON


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Re: SMR build photo update
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2022, 04:15:39 PM »
 :o

Oh my, Lol.
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