Early Brown Bess Musketoon Examples?

[Tacksman45]

Hi everyone,

I was wondering if anyone knows of any sources for examples of early British Land Pattern Musketoons from the 1720's through 1750's? I am trying to locate some examples for reference for a potential project. If anyone could point me to any books or websites, or an extant examples I would really appreciate it. Thanks so much!

Tacksman

[Pukka Bundook]

Was thinking David Hardings  volumes on arms of the East India Company might help, but do not know the earliest dates he covers, Tacksman.
His condensed version only begins with  arms from 1775 onwards.

[Daryl]

" British Land Pattern Musketoons from the 1720's through 1750's"

Was there such a thing?  A short musket in that age group?

[Tacksman45]

" British Land Pattern Musketoons from the 1720's through 1750's"

Was there such a thing?  A short musket in that age group?

That's what I am trying to find out. I am looking to see if anyone knows of any genuine examples of these that were actually manufactured during this time. I know they made some later on, but I am specifically looking for earlier examples.

[smart dog]

Hi,
Get a copy of Bailey's "Small Arms of the British Forces in America 1664-1815".  Here is a quote from his book on page 69:
As a group, British Ordnance musketoons and blunderbusses are undoubtedly the rarest of British military longarms.  No examples have been identified with dates later than the early 1720s at the time of writing."

There are references to "musketoons" set up John Hirst, Loder and Waller, and Nock during the 1770s-1800 but none of those guns are known.  The early musketoons identified are all sea service.  The Pedersoli Brown Bess "musketoon" is likely a fantasy.

dave

 

[James Rogers]

https://collections.royalarmouries.org/object/rac-object-366.html

A little earlier than you requested. Assumed a sea service model

[Daryl]

I googled it and Wikipedia said the Musketoons oft times had belled mouths (like Blunderbuss'). Wiki also mentioned Sea Service.