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Offline Molly

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Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« on: June 02, 2022, 03:28:15 PM »
Flint pistol - American  Opinions on the name or maker.

There is an eagle at the beginning of the name and some sort of symbol or letter at the end but we cannot tell what it is.  A few of the letters seem clear but others are not.  Any thoughts?  Name ?  Period ??  It is a small caliber rifled barrel.  Further photos not currently available.  You should be able to enlarge the photo.




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Re: Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2022, 05:54:10 PM »
A clear photo of the signature and some additional photos of the pistol would no doubt help.

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Re: Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2022, 05:57:58 PM »
This is all I have.  You should be able to "click" on the photo to enlarge it.  And then click on it again and it will further enlarge it.  That is about as clear as I can get it.

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Re: Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2022, 08:40:52 PM »
Eagles were very common on most anything during the Federal Period.  That image could kinda be considered a Federal Eagle.  Seeing the lock style would help. 

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Re: Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2022, 08:46:29 PM »
J. Kline....?????
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Re: Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2022, 09:23:11 PM »
J. Kein perhaps

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Re: Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2022, 09:28:26 PM »
I enlarged it X3 and still made no sense of the name.If possible more pictures with lock in and out of the stock would help.
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Re: Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2022, 11:40:17 PM »
Looks like it might be this pistol or another by the same maker:
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/82/3111/j-kline-flintlock-kentucky-pistol

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Re: Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2022, 12:20:34 AM »
Looks like it might be this pistol or another by the same maker:
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/82/3111/j-kline-flintlock-kentucky-pistol

I think you nailed it!
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Re: Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2022, 03:52:53 AM »
INDEED!

Many thanks.  Wonder what it actually sold for?  BTW, the one I pictured is NOT the one from the auction.

Why so expensive??

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Re: Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2022, 04:42:00 PM »
INDEED!

Many thanks.  Wonder what it actually sold for?  BTW, the one I pictured is NOT the one from the auction.

Why so expensive??

$7000.00
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Re: Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2022, 06:15:57 PM »
I looked at the auction results posted and that item 3111 was not shown on the recap of prices realized.  Must simply be a maker who does not have a lot of remaining examples in circulation.  Not a name that rang any Virginia bells, let alone the area that he worked in.

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Re: Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2022, 12:50:29 AM »
INDEED!

Many thanks.  Wonder what it actually sold for?  BTW, the one I pictured is NOT the one from the auction.

Why so expensive??

Since this is a past auction and no price realized is listed, this means that pistol didn't sell.
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Re: Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2022, 08:25:39 PM »
I have seen 3 signed rifles by Jacob Kline from Hampshire County and this signed brass barreled pistol that is in the libray. All signed in script.  There is a few in Whiskers books, not sure if they are signed or attributted.    Last year a pistol collector had a signed Jacob Kline flintlock pistol at the WV show.  It was oct/round..  Was a little smaller & very elegant, but similar to the  pistol in RIA auction.  Another collector & I was looking at it, and he said it was not made in Virginia , but by a Jacob Kline in Pennsylvania.  But I am not sure he knew that for a fact.  They are also some Jacob Kline rifles made in Ohio, which are rather plain.  I think they are made by a man who originated in Pennsylvania and migrated to Ohio.   

I would like to see some more photos of the pistol in the post.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2022, 08:37:11 PM by Avlrc »

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Re: Pistol, Flint, American ? Help to ID
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2022, 03:41:46 PM »
Sorry but that's all I have.