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Offline MJBush

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Swiss 2f powder
« on: June 25, 2022, 11:42:52 PM »
Hi,
Does anyone shoot Swiss 2F in anything, I have had limited success with it in a 40 cal I have. Thinking of trying it in a couple of 50’s I have. Thoughts and comments  welcome.

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Michael

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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2022, 12:14:22 AM »
Yep, I used Swiss 3f in my 40s for years and ran out one afternoon but had Swiss 2f with me so used that. I kept using it because I had a good supply on hand as I used 2f in my 50s. I also use Swiss 1&1/2 so only have 2f and 1&1/2 on hand now. If I shot sub 40 cal I would probably get back into some 3f.

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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2022, 01:03:58 AM »
Back in the late 50's and on into the 70's we had DuPont then GOEX and sometimes Curtis&Harvey and sometimes.Kings even though the mill closed in 1953 there was still quite a bit around.I used 3fg in all calibers of rifled including a W.W.Greener 16 bore SxS rifle and it regulated at 50 yards with 90 grains and a patched ball.75 grains of DuPont and the old Lyman 451112 made the Whitworth happy and 55 grains worked in the Len Meadows flintlock with a .445 patched ball and groundhogs gave testimony to that load.My experience with Swiss is very limited but using 75 grains of it and the same bullet seemed to have a lot more punch and higher velocity but no real good way to know for sure.In 2008 I actually completed 3 rifles,a 58 caliber flintlock that I used 75 grains of GOEX 3fg and a .562 round ball with striped cotton patches.Bill Large would come back  from the dead if he ever found out about that undersized ball but it worked.The next was a 40 caliber boys rifle with a .395 ball and the same patch material over 40 grains of GOEX 3fg and then,a 38 caliber bullet gun with a Hoyt barrel and a 330 grain lubricated bullet and 55 grains of GOEX 3fg and all came from the same can.That was my last tests with a muzzle loader and then started into another venue of black powder and shot at Ralph Marcum's Hooten Holler range in McKee Ky.for several years.
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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2022, 01:19:35 AM »
Never have used Swiss 2F but really like the 3F in the .32.
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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2022, 01:35:45 AM »
I shoot a lot of 2 Swiss

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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2022, 04:23:37 AM »


It works in .50s

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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2022, 05:16:57 AM »
My 44" Getz barreled .58 absolutely adores Swiss 2F.

Here's a 5 shot 50yd target off the bench as I was trying to figure out what it liked......needless to say the search ended right there  ;D


 

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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2022, 06:47:46 AM »
WOW, that great!
Michael

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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2022, 05:20:48 PM »
I shoot a lot of 2 Swiss

Fleener
Yep, I understand 100gr at a time according to the ASSRA magazine. Congrats on your excellent shooting in TN!
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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2022, 05:24:47 PM »


This was with 3f Swiss before I switched to 2f. Maybe I should switch back but now I have to shoot LEFT eye so results might not be equal.

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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2022, 09:51:13 PM »
I only shoot 86 grains of 2F at a time.   Not sure why 100 grains got reported.

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Fleener


I shoot a lot of 2 Swiss

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Yep, I understand 100gr at a time according to the ASSRA magazine. Congrats on your excellent shooting in TN!
My taste are simple:  I am easily satisfied with the best.  Winston Churchill

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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2022, 11:26:37 PM »
Hi Everyone,

I am thinking of Swiss 2F for two off hand rifles I have. I shoot 75 grains of 2F Goex in both of them. I was thinking 65 grains of Swiss 2F. 100grains of anything seems like a lot in guns shot in off hand matches. Don’t get me wrong I have guns I shoot up to 140  Grains of 2F in, but with no Goex until next year I am looking at other options for open sight matches and off hand with out buying any more powder right now.
Michael

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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2022, 01:00:39 AM »
I only shoot 86 grains of 2F at a time.   Not sure why 100 grains got reported.

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Fleener


I shoot a lot of 2 Swiss

Fleener
Yep, I understand 100gr at a time according to the ASSRA magazine. Congrats on your excellent shooting in TN!
I thought it was pretty cool that I know somebody who is such a good  shooter.
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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2022, 01:06:40 AM »
All targets posted are very impressive.
Michael

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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2022, 01:20:21 AM »


swiss 3 f works to ;D if you can find it :-[




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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2022, 12:49:12 AM »
I might be able to shoot a 5-shot, one hole group if the distance is around 8 yards.  That's the kind of shooting that humbles friends and bystanders.
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Re: Swiss 2f powder
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2022, 10:10:57 PM »
I went to the range yesterday and was very please with the results of Swiss 2F.  65 grains, 495 ball, and Teflon patching cut at the muzzle. When I figure out how to post a photo I will.

Michael