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Offline Flintandsmoke

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Double lobed horn
« on: July 18, 2022, 08:07:50 AM »
Hey folks, I recently found this beautiful horn up in the North East. I know its a double lobed horn. I also know itís from somewhere between 1750 and 1770. Can anyone help me fill in the gaps?






















Offline rich pierce

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2022, 03:56:43 PM »
Looks pretty tight - I donít see any gaps.  ::)

I think youíre right on timeframe and location - New England is about as close as youíll get. Terrific early horn.
Andover, Vermont

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2022, 11:06:07 PM »
Looks pretty tight - I donít see any gaps.  ::)

I think youíre right on timeframe and location - New England is about as close as youíll get. Terrific early horn.

Thank you Rich, i saw it and couldnít turn it down

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2022, 01:50:08 AM »
Looks pretty tight - I donít see any gaps.  ::)

I think youíre right on timeframe and location - New England is about as close as youíll get. Terrific early horn.

Thank you Rich, i saw it and couldnít turn it down
Right place, right time! Lucky I didnít see it first!  These ďcommon manĒ early horns are right in my wheelhouse.
Andover, Vermont

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2022, 02:49:59 AM »
Looks pretty tight - I donít see any gaps.  ::)

I think youíre right on timeframe and location - New England is about as close as youíll get. Terrific early horn.

Thank you Rich, i saw it and couldnít turn it down
Right place, right time! Lucky I didnít see it first!  These ďcommon manĒ early horns are right in my wheelhouse.

Iím actually getting this one reproduced by Henry Bowman for use in my New Hampshire frontier persona circa 1750/60

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2022, 03:14:13 AM »
The heraldic device, or an American Indian glyph is what appeals to me on this horn. I do not recognize the symbol, but lean toward Indian: the figure resembles 'men' figures on some wampum belts. It is a great piece and is certainly a treasure. You could have the carry hole lobes restored and put it back somewhat. Actually they look like they may have been broken off somewhat later in the history/use period. Thank you for sharing your good fortune with us here on the ALR.
Dick 

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2022, 09:03:17 AM »
 Nice horn, is there any carving on it?

   Tim C.

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2022, 07:58:00 PM »
Dick,

Where is the heraldic device or Indian glyph located on this horn? I may be blind, but I can't find it.

Shelby Gallien

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2022, 09:01:42 PM »
Shelby, it is carved into the wood butt plug. On second glance now, it may be the initials 'E D' which have been bisected by the long line down the middle. However, the middle cross stroke on the 'E' does not seen to have the terminal arm that the outer strokes have. The long 'center line' may just be an accidental addition. Would like to have it in hand and take a good close look. For now it is just speculation. Neat horn and appears to be quite old.
Dick

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2022, 10:36:39 PM »
Nice horn, is there any carving on it?

   Tim C.

Tim, no sir, plain as the day she was made

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2022, 10:42:09 PM »
Shelby, it is carved into the wood butt plug. On second glance now, it may be the initials 'E D' which have been bisected by the long line down the middle. However, the middle cross stroke on the 'E' does not seen to have the terminal arm that the outer strokes have. The long 'center line' may just be an accidental addition. Would like to have it in hand and take a good close look. For now it is just speculation. Neat horn and appears to be quite old.
Dick

Iím going with either CD or ED

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2022, 11:46:57 PM »
'C D' makes sense, too. Maybe that is it. The long line running through the initials obscures it, and was it inscribed on purpose or was it done on accident during the use period? Need to see it in hand to actually know.
Dick

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2022, 04:53:03 AM »
There is very little patina in the "E D" initials cuts and heavy cut running through them. With the dark patina on much of the rest of the butt plug's face, I'd guess the initials are a later addition.

Shelby Gallien

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2022, 05:33:48 AM »
There is very little patina in the "E D" initials cuts and heavy cut running through them. With the dark patina on much of the rest of the butt plug's face, I'd guess the initials are a later addition.

Shelby Gallien

Iíd say probably, but Iíll let the masters at the CLA check it out

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2022, 02:09:54 AM »
Itís Edís horn you got there 😉

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Re: Double lobed horn
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2022, 08:52:51 AM »
Itís Edís horn you got there 😉

Lol