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Offline Beaverman

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #225 on: June 03, 2023, 05:24:05 PM »
OUTSTANDING!

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« Reply #226 on: June 03, 2023, 05:38:30 PM »
 looks like the work of a  'master builder'.  i would be happy if my 10th gun looked like that, no less my first.

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #227 on: June 03, 2023, 07:48:06 PM »
Beautifully done gun.  A little hint….you will never be completely satisfied with any gun you build.  That’s because you will always be striving to do better!
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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #228 on: June 03, 2023, 11:24:10 PM »
 Congratulations Maria on a job Well done. My hat is off to you Dave, a teacher measures their teaching ability, skill and knowledge of the subject by how well their students perform and retain the tasks taught. You and Maria are a perfect example of how it should be done.

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #229 on: June 04, 2023, 01:47:57 AM »
A beautiful job there young lady. Keep up the great work. It's always so nice to see young folks involved in building.
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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #230 on: June 04, 2023, 04:56:35 AM »
Maria, it has been a pleasure to follow your work and am looking forward to seeing more of it in the future. Thank you!
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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #231 on: June 04, 2023, 07:38:19 AM »
Incredible finished product Maria!  You did an amazing job on the fowler.  Congratulations to both you and Dave!!!


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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #232 on: June 04, 2023, 11:59:35 AM »
Indeed ,a very nice finished gun by this young girl.
Very talented .I would say.
Thanks for sharing Hawkeye

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #233 on: June 04, 2023, 03:10:57 PM »
Wow! Maria, you are blessed with the skill. One either has it or doesn't have it. You have it! Hope you realize that after creating a magnificent work such as this you have ownership of bragging rights. Not the gross "better than you" kind of bragging rather the type that comes with pride of workmanship. You earned those rights. Looking forward to seeing more, much more of your work. Kudos to you!

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #234 on: June 04, 2023, 03:36:54 PM »
Hi,
Thanks everyone for your support and encouragement for Maria and me.  She did an outstanding job and will be hard at it this summer making muskets.  I must admit, the fowler looks better in the hand than in photos.  Somehow the pictures don't capture the elegance and craftsmanship that well.  We shot the gun yesterday for the first time.  It functions very well and it may already be close to zeroed in at 30-40 yards.  Soon, we will bench it at 50 yards and see how it goes. Maria's objective was to build a plausible mid-18th century English fowler of good quality that might have been exported to the American colonies.  Despite the extra costs of shipping, these guns were very affordable despite the quality because of the extreme division of labor in the English gun trade.  Therein lies a big challenge for any modern maker of these guns.  The level of workmanship must be high and there is little room for error in getting the architecture right.  These are not good gun first guns to build.  However, that did not intimidate Maria, and she even went further down the rabbit hole of difficulty by selecting steel and iron furniture.  Brass is so much easier to work, shape, and polish.  It also was a challenge to keep the proper architecture but still fit Maria who needed considerable drop at heel but a relatively high comb.  Added to that are the limitations imposed because few commercially made locks and parts fit the need very closely. With careful instruction, she managed to pull it off with aplomb. It also helped to have original guns on hand to examine while working at the bench. There is probably no better example of the value, importance, and advantage of examining original guns than this project.   

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #235 on: June 04, 2023, 04:06:26 PM »
Dave will you have the gun (and Maria) at Kempton this year?

Kevin
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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #236 on: June 04, 2023, 04:35:13 PM »
Maria, what a beautiful gun.  You've learned a lot from Dave who is obviously a master builder as well as a great mentor/teacher.  Good luck at Siena College.  My granddaughter graduated from Siena a couple of years ago and loved that college. :)

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #237 on: June 04, 2023, 04:43:41 PM »
Beautiful job, Maria and Dave!
It looks so Right!

My hat is off to both teacher and student!!!

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #238 on: June 04, 2023, 05:07:37 PM »
Dave will you have the gun (and Maria) at Kempton this year?

Kevin

Dave will have the gun at Kempton's. I am very sadly unable to make it.

-Maria

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #239 on: June 04, 2023, 08:58:00 PM »
My compliments Maria.
First rate job all around.
You’re quite lucky to have such fine mentoring for your first effort.  Hope you are able to finish many more.

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #240 on: June 05, 2023, 12:38:02 AM »
Dave will you have the gun (and Maria) at Kempton this year?

Kevin

Dave will have the gun at Kempton's. I am very sadly unable to make it.

-Maria

That is too bad my compliments will have to be digital.
Outstanding build, can't wait to see it in person!

Kevin
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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #241 on: June 05, 2023, 03:17:52 AM »
Maria,

Would have loved to have met you at Kempton and congratulated you in person.  So I must add my digital praise to Kevin's.
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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #242 on: June 05, 2023, 04:39:42 AM »
Great job Maria and Dave !

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #243 on: June 05, 2023, 05:51:33 AM »
   The best thing that you can do with your talent is to give it to someone else. That is exactly what you have done and it is a great thing. I hope that you can do the same soon with someone else.  I would love to do a project like this sometime.

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #244 on: June 06, 2023, 07:36:30 PM »
Congratulations!  That turned out nice.  I really like the view from the top of the wrist / lock panels.  The architecture in this area is just beautiful.

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #245 on: June 06, 2023, 08:20:32 PM »
Simply remarkable!!  You've created an heirloom piece that would stand up to any judge.  "Best of Show" material here.  Kudos to you and Dave.  And thank you for the expose, eh.
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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #246 on: June 06, 2023, 08:24:24 PM »
Exceptional! Very believable piece.

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #247 on: June 07, 2023, 03:27:53 AM »
With this being a senior project and "granted", what was the result and opinion of the grantor?

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Re: My Apprentice and Our English Fowler Project
« Reply #248 on: June 07, 2023, 04:08:13 AM »
Hi,
Thank you all.  Angus, we don't know.  Maria makes her school presentation this Friday night (6/9) so we should know then. 

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« Reply #249 on: June 14, 2023, 07:29:56 PM »
Hi,
Maria gave her presentation at her high school last Friday night.  Staff from the school, parents and friends were in attendance.  She did really well discussing some British gun making history and then the making of her fowler.  She gave a Powerpoint presentation that was also videoed and broadcast virtually to folks who could not directly attend the talk.  Afterwards, we went outside and shot off a few blanks demonstrating how reliable and fast her gun was.  The school principal and those involved with funding and administering her project were very, very pleased.   Currently, Maria is working over a Miroku Charleville musket that needs extensive work and then she is on to building two British pattern 1769 short land muskets.  The work will be done in my shop under my supervision.  I have other guns to do build at the same time so the shop will be humming along all summer.

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