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Offline bluenoser

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Recreating The American Longrifle
« on: December 28, 2022, 05:27:54 PM »
A bit of trivia for any who might be interested:
I have two copies of the book, one of which was gifted to me (and is new) and will likely be put on a prize table at some point.  My working copy is the fourth edition and the other is the fifth edition.  I had loaned my working copy to a friend and used the other copy when I needed to look something up - flagging the pages.  My working copy has returned and I just set about transferring the page markers.  I was somewhat dumbstruck when I found page 96 in the fourth edition is page 90 in the fifth edition ???.  The fourth edition has 175 pages whereas the fifth has 167 - and the sequencing of information has been changed around. At this point, I am not sure what information might have been deleted in the fifth edition.
Go figure :o

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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2022, 12:34:09 AM »
I have a early hard bound edition that has several things the later addions had deleated. One section shows how to stratighten out a crooked started ramrod hole using a drill with a bent collar shank. The cutting section is full 3/8" size but the rest of the drill shank is turned down to like 1/8 ". This portion fits into a bent sleeve shank alot like a flex shaft on a weed whacker. the thinner shaft allows you to drill out a crooked hole. Kind of cool. Guess they figured not many could make one of these so deleted it.
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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2022, 04:04:17 AM »
I would have liked to see that.  I wonder what other tidbits I might be missing.  I would have thought there would have been verbiage on the front cover of later editions to indicate they had been revised.  Guess I will keep an eye peeled for an early edition.

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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2022, 07:40:43 AM »
So i found my cloth bound addition. The front section says 2000 copies in paper bound, 500 cloth bound. Printed in 1970. Mine says second edition. It is in a smaller format 5 x 9. I thumbed through and found a section that dicussed restorations, reconverting locks to flint and streching barrels as a part of restoration.
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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2022, 03:42:27 PM »
YEP, I am definitely on the hunt for a first or second edition!
Keeping the fourth edition and have gifted the fifth edition to a friend.
Thanks Dave

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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2022, 07:39:22 PM »
Can someone please post a picture of the cover?
I think I might have a copy, here, someplace.....
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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2022, 09:22:37 PM »
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory.

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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2022, 12:45:27 AM »
Thank you, JPK.
Now I remember the cover, and I have one, someplace...
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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2022, 12:50:09 AM »
The edition # should be on the first page, at least it is in editions 4 and 5.  According to my copy, the second edition was published from 1970 to 1974 and the third edition was published from 1978 to 1980.  I suppose one published in 1976 is more likely to be a second edition than a third.

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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2022, 02:20:43 AM »
I believe I have a first edition. I can take some photos when I get back home.

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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2022, 02:43:50 AM »
Greetings,
Just thought I chime in.    My hard copy actually has a slightly different title, "Recreating the Kentucky Rifle" with only William Buchele's name.  It only has 83 pages but it has many of the same line drawings  and the blue prints of the"Golden Age" Rifle and Pistol.   Hank




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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2022, 08:43:51 PM »
My copy has 187 pgs but being a small format could explaine the difference





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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2022, 09:58:13 PM »
Recreating the Kentucky Longrifle/Recreating The American Longrifle is my favorite book on building longrifles.  I seem to have started collecting copies of it.  Here are the four I have in hand currently.  Thru the years I've given 2 copies away and another is out on loan (permanently?) to a friend.



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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2022, 03:51:02 PM »
I still use this book for reference after many years of building, it’s one of the first books I recommend to new builders.
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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2022, 06:55:16 PM »
A good number of informative posts here.  It looks as though I would be safe in focusing my search on a 1970 printing date since the issue number appears to be absent in earlier editions.
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!

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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2022, 09:40:56 PM »
I have a 1973 printing with the full scale drawings dated 1966. 

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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2023, 12:56:20 AM »
Does your 1973 printing have the sections Dave B describes in replies # 1 and 3?  Those are the sections that are missing in my fourth edition.

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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2023, 06:32:38 PM »
Here is my oldest one which, was noted earlier, has the different title.











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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2023, 07:39:32 PM »
Does your 1973 printing have the sections Dave B describes in replies # 1 and 3?  Those are the sections that are missing in my fourth edition.

Yes, in chapter 9 and 36

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Re: Recreating The American Longrifle
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2023, 01:09:33 AM »
Thanks, that broadens my search.