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Offline MDL

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what is the smallest diameter drum i can use?
« on: January 25, 2023, 12:54:53 AM »
I am building a kentucky style caplock pistol. I have a precut stock with the barrel channel already cut in it, the barrel is 13/16 40cal. and an L&R Manton caplock. The side panel is a little small to get the lock in along the bottom. I need to move the lock up a little I have a 5/16-24 threaded drum that I turned down to 0.3800. I was wondering if I can turn that down anymore and still be safe to shoot?

Offline smylee grouch

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Re: what is the smallest diameter drum i can use?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2023, 01:01:00 AM »
A picture of the stock/.lock might help>

Offline D. Taylor Sapergia

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Re: what is the smallest diameter drum i can use?
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2023, 01:13:04 AM »
Something wrong with your math Sir. 
A 5/16" drum is .3125" in diameter.  You cannot turn it down to .380" - that's over 3/8" in diameter.  I submit that your drum was 7/16" or .4375".  Is there a circular cut-out in the percussion plate for the drum?  What size is it?
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Re: what is the smallest diameter drum i can use?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2023, 01:18:25 AM »
The drum was 7/16 in diameter with a 5/16-24 thread that I turned down to 0.380. I was wondering if I can go smaller and still be safe. Can I make a 5/16 drum with 1/4-28 threads and have that still be safe to shoot with 20gr. of powder?

Here are some pictures. Thank you for your help.









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Offline okieboy

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Re: what is the smallest diameter drum i can use?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2023, 02:07:24 AM »
 You could make a 5/16--5/16-32 thread drum and just bottom it on the thread runout. I personally believe that a problem with 1/4" threads for a drum is how thin the wall of the drum becomes under the threads(minor thread diameter minus internal hole diameter divided by two). Minor thread diameter on an external thread is the distance between the bottoms of threads on the opposite sides. The thin walls leave little material for apsorbing the impact of the hammer and the material stress it causes.
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Offline MDL

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Re: what is the smallest diameter drum i can use?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2023, 04:46:03 AM »
Thanks for that reply I hadn't considered the issue of the hammer strikes over time on the threads, I was more concerned with the pressures the powder would create.

Offline Ted Kramer

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Re: what is the smallest diameter drum i can use?
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2023, 04:44:51 AM »
MDL-
You haven’t started to inlet the  Manton yet, ever consider a different lock that’d fit better on the lock panel?
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Offline MDL

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Re: what is the smallest diameter drum i can use?
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2023, 05:30:33 AM »
I tried small siler the back end fit better but the front was about the same unless I set it crooked in the panel and i didn't like the look of it.  Being left handed I don't have as many locks to choose from. I tried to find a Becky lock but couldn't find one of those either.

Offline Clowdis

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Re: what is the smallest diameter drum i can use?
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2023, 04:59:49 PM »
Can't you modify the lock plate to fit the 7/16 diameter drum?

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Re: what is the smallest diameter drum i can use?
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2023, 04:44:59 AM »
The main spring sits right beneath the drum in the lock plate, I filed some of that away but I am afraid to take to much material away because of the spring

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Re: what is the smallest diameter drum i can use?
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2023, 08:58:56 PM »
Why do you want a drum of smaller diameter?
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