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Offline PAhunter

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54 or 58
« on: February 07, 2023, 04:08:41 AM »
 I am looking for a new flinter but torn between 54 or 58 cal. I will be shooting matches and hunting deer. Weight is a concern but a 42 or 44 inch barrel is a must. Any opinions?

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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2023, 04:33:53 AM »
I have been completely satisfied with 54 on game and targets, a long barrel benefits from being swamped or even tapered.
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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2023, 04:34:36 AM »
I have a .58 in a Christian’s Spring style, 38” barrel, that is a very handy gun. It’s got a “D” weight barrel. If you got a C weight in .54 caliber it should be about the same weight. I’d try to get an accurate weight for the barrel you’re buying and add 3 to 3.5 pounds to get final weight of your build.
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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2023, 04:35:32 AM »
Dont over think it.

You are splitting hairs to a certain degree.   Pick the one you like and run with it.

I would go with the .54 myself.

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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2023, 08:23:46 AM »
PAhunter,
I have used both for target and hunting.  Over the years I have grown to  like the .54 better than the .58.  I have killed deer with both cal. and both were lethal.  I have killed deer with both cal. right at 100 yards and both done the job.  The recoil of my .54 is a bit less than the .58 and I enjoy competing with the .54 the most, and that may be the reason I lean in that direction for hunting and target.
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Offline Daniel Coats

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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2023, 03:38:28 PM »
Takes less powder to flatten the trajectory of a .54. I used 80 grains under a patched round ball to make a one shot kill on a moose at 100 yards.
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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2023, 06:38:31 PM »
As has been partially said, less powder use by a bit, less felt recoil, higher velocity with same load, flatter trajectory from lighter round ball, similar effectiveness on game.  54 cal for all those reasons.

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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2023, 07:32:32 PM »
I agree with Mr. Coats I have owned and hunted with both. I prefer the .54 for many of the same reasons as others have said. More than enough gun for all but a few of the game in North America.
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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2023, 08:01:53 PM »
Wow, what is best 54 or 58. You could ask 10 people that and you might get 11 responses.  ;D Between those two I prefer the 58 for hunting and target but not the same rifle for both. The 58 does a better job on 200 yard/meter targets ( bench rest & silhouette's ). It will have more penetration for pass through, two bleeding holes than smaller balls. This with all shot placements being equal. This being very important when in heavy cover or on heavy and or fatty game as fatty tissue sometimes clogs wound channels. JMHO and everyone else's mileage may vary.  ;)

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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2023, 08:26:01 PM »
If I was still hunting moose and building a rifle for target and hunting, I would go with the .58.  It's odd, but I have had 3 .58's but no .54's.
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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2023, 04:06:12 AM »
I am looking for a new flinter but torn between 54 or 58 cal. I will be shooting matches and hunting deer. Weight is a concern but a 42 or 44 inch barrel is a must. Any opinions?

54. If you only have two choices.  I don’t think anyone can tell a 54 from a 58 on game.
For Deer 50 works just as well IMO. If you want more actual power than 54 you need to go to 62 and then recoil WILL be an issue on many stock designs. If weight is and issue a B weight 50 would make a nice light rifle and will kill deer just fine with 70 to 90 gr of FFF.

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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2023, 04:17:13 AM »
Personally I prefer .58 but .54 may be a more practical choice in Pa. Just about any gun shop has balls to shoot a .54, you have to look a little harder to or cast your own for .58.
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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2023, 05:00:33 AM »
If I was still hunting moose and building a rifle for target and hunting, I would go with the .58.  It's odd, but I have had 3 .58's but no .54's.

But you have bigger critters up there. Of course I have Gbears down here so…. And their increase over the years is one reason I carry a 54 hunting Elk now.
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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2023, 03:45:53 PM »
If you are hunting back East where most hunting is done from stands of some sort, then the .54 would be my choice. If you are hunting where a lot of walking (6 plus miles a day) and glassing is the norm, I would skip both the 54 and 58 and go with a .62. Specially if you must have a 42-to-44-inch barrel.
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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2023, 04:20:32 PM »
I will agree with Fleener. Don’t over think it. Jerry

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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2023, 06:24:33 PM »
I think a .56 is in order. Just kidding!
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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2023, 06:40:38 PM »
My vote is for the .54 too. Unless your exclusively hunting the largest of large North American game, trophy moose & bear, the .54 is more than sufficient. I'm ordering my Woodsrunner kit in 54.

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Re: 54 or 58
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2023, 05:32:01 AM »
My next purchase will be a .54 and 44 inch barrel.

I’ve had every cal...but a .54