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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2023, 03:30:41 PM »
 Its already been said but That is a Beauty.

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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2023, 03:38:18 PM »
Great gun Ed just spectacular in every way.Thanks for posting!!!!!

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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2023, 04:02:19 PM »
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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2023, 04:13:57 PM »
There are "levels" to everything  and, this is Top Level  stuff right here! Everything from design to execution VERY well done! Thanks for posting

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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2023, 04:49:47 PM »
Wonderful rifle. Most impressed with your engraving, specially on the barrel and tang. Congratulations!
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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2023, 05:31:01 PM »
That is one awesome rifle!!! And so many awesome details!!!

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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2023, 05:54:23 PM »
Lovely work Ed!
Just lovely to look at.  Beautiful carving and engraving. Top flight!

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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2023, 06:23:06 PM »
Another great gun from your shop Ed.  We have all come to expect nothing but the best from your hand.
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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2023, 07:43:51 PM »
She's a beauty all right! From stem to stern!
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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2023, 08:12:28 PM »
Just excellent work Ed...I love it all!!
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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #35 on: March 01, 2023, 08:13:48 PM »
Work, artistry, and craftsmanship like that... humble me.  Amazing!

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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #36 on: March 01, 2023, 08:34:55 PM »
A SPECIAL piece, indeed. :o
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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #37 on: March 01, 2023, 09:21:15 PM »
Many thanks for the kind words!  My apologies for not getting back sooner, I posted this a little later last night, then got up and did some trout fishing this morning.

I’ll try to answer some questions….  The carving designs were definitely influenced by original work.  None of them are direct copies, but heavily influenced by original work, with different “twists” to designs to make them a little different.  The shell/fan design behind the cheek is based on an original piece, and and the “C” and “S” scrolls emanating from that design are based on some of Bob Harnes work.  I put the two together to come up with what you see on the rifle.

All the engraving I did (tang, breach, lock) are designs I came up with, and not really based on original work.  Obviously, the chiseled designs on the furniture are “as cast” from an original rifle.

I struggle with design, and believe me, it doesn’t just “come to me”.  There’s lots of iterations that are drawn before I ever put engraver to metal, or gouge to wood.  Which is a good segue for those who voiced concerns about the quality of their work.  For whatever reason, I’ve found there’s a HUGE correlation between drawing and carving/engraving.  If you can draw nice, flowing designs, it’s going to be much easier for you to execute nice, flowing carving and engraving.  This is about the time I’d hear a chorus of people saying something like “Well, that does it for me, I can’t draw worth a dang!”  Remember, we’re not talking about recreating the Mona Lisa, we’re basically talking about “C” scrolls, “S” scrolls, and acanthus leaves, and their variations.  Study original work from every source you can get your hands on, and draw them, a lot.  If you have to, trace them out first, then try again free hand.  The thing is, just like any other endeavor, is to practice as much as you can!  You do that, and I can almost guarantee you’ll see an improvement in your work.

Dave asked about incised carving at Kempton this summer.  I don’t think I’ll be doing any formal demonstrations/seminars on the subject, but do plan on having a work bench set up with a Quaker stock that I’ll be carving on all weekend.  Anyone who’s attending is more than welcome to stop by and we can go through some techniques, questions, etc.

Someone asked about metal treatment…, for the furniture, most, I just scrubbed with a maroon scotch brite pad.  For the guard, there were areas that needed to be filed for clean up.  For those areas, I applied 44/40, which turns the brass black.  I then scrubbed it back with a maroon scotch brite pad and some oil, which produced a good match with the rest of the piece. 
The brass lock plate was treated with 44/40 after engraving, then scrubbed back as described above.  The lock cock was treated with Super Blue, then rubbed back, same way. 
The barrel tang was simply spray painted black, then rubbed back.  The barrel was treated with Super Blue, then rubbed back.  I wanted there to be more of a contrast between the barrel and tang, with the tang being more bright, but I don’t think that really happened.

Thanks again!    Best,

           Ed


























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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2023, 10:35:11 PM »
Ed,
Will you be bringing this to Laceyville?
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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2023, 12:11:39 AM »
That is one of those rifles you keep under the bed and don't allow anyone to touch it; the best of the best.   JZ
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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2023, 03:22:32 AM »
Kevin…, yes, I’ll bring it.

Also, someone asked…, the muzzle cap is horn.

Best,

          Ed
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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2023, 03:22:49 AM »
Excellent jaeger rifle Ed!

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« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2023, 03:27:06 AM »
Ed thatis a fine piece no doubt, job well done sir!
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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2023, 05:40:33 AM »
Thanks for sharing the pictures.  It is always enjoyable to see true craftsmanship that few of us can execute on our own.

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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2023, 08:58:03 AM »
Many thanks for the kind words!  My apologies for not getting back sooner, I posted this a little later last night, then got up and did some trout fishing this morning.

I’ll try to answer some questions….  The carving designs were definitely influenced by original work.  None of them are direct copies, but heavily influenced by original work, with different “twists” to designs to make them a little different.  The shell/fan design behind the cheek is based on an original piece, and and the “C” and “S” scrolls emanating from that design are based on some of Bob Harnes work.  I put the two together to come up with what you see on the rifle.

All the engraving I did (tang, breach, lock) are designs I came up with, and not really based on original work.  Obviously, the chiseled designs on the furniture are “as cast” from an original rifle.

I struggle with design, and believe me, it doesn’t just “come to me”.  There’s lots of iterations that are drawn before I ever put engraver to metal, or gouge to wood.  Which is a good segue for those who voiced concerns about the quality of their work.  For whatever reason, I’ve found there’s a HUGE correlation between drawing and carving/engraving.  If you can draw nice, flowing designs, it’s going to be much easier for you to execute nice, flowing carving and engraving.  This is about the time I’d hear a chorus of people saying something like “Well, that does it for me, I can’t draw worth a dang!”  Remember, we’re not talking about recreating the Mona Lisa, we’re basically talking about “C” scrolls, “S” scrolls, and acanthus leaves, and their variations.  Study original work from every source you can get your hands on, and draw them, a lot.  If you have to, trace them out first, then try again free hand.  The thing is, just like any other endeavor, is to practice as much as you can!  You do that, and I can almost guarantee you’ll see an improvement in your work.

Dave asked about incised carving at Kempton this summer.  I don’t think I’ll be doing any formal demonstrations/seminars on the subject, but do plan on having a work bench set up with a Quaker stock that I’ll be carving on all weekend.  Anyone who’s attending is more than welcome to stop by and we can go through some techniques, questions, etc.

Someone asked about metal treatment…, for the furniture, most, I just scrubbed with a maroon scotch brite pad.  For the guard, there were areas that needed to be filed for clean up.  For those areas, I applied 44/40, which turns the brass black.  I then scrubbed it back with a maroon scotch brite pad and some oil, which produced a good match with the rest of the piece. 
The brass lock plate was treated with 44/40 after engraving, then scrubbed back as described above.  The lock cock was treated with Super Blue, then rubbed back, same way. 
The barrel tang was simply spray painted black, then rubbed back.  The barrel was treated with Super Blue, then rubbed back.  I wanted there to be more of a contrast between the barrel and tang, with the tang being more bright, but I don’t think that really happened.

Thanks again!    Best,

           Ed


Well said Ed! You are as talented as a teacher as you are an artist.  I really like what you achieved here.  You have the eye and the touch.

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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #45 on: March 02, 2023, 03:05:29 PM »
Very nice!
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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #46 on: March 02, 2023, 04:18:14 PM »
Beautiful and inspirational.  Thanks for taking the time to share it!

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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #47 on: March 02, 2023, 04:47:06 PM »
That sure is a beauty.  The engraving really makes it pop.
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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #48 on: March 02, 2023, 07:44:32 PM »
This jaeger is amazing. Absolutely beautiful.
I wish I could do such perfect work.

Christian

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Re: Newly minted Jaeger….
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2023, 08:29:05 PM »
Now, I know what Taylor was talking about when he said "some day, I'd like to have a rifle made by Ed Wenger".
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