Author Topic: Looking for A Child Size Fowler Pattern (Read 3127 times)

Dan Fruth · « **on:** March 06, 2023, 03:27:07 PM »

I'm looking for a pattern for a child sized fowler or rifle pattern. If any could help it would be appreciated. Thanks....Dan

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2023, 04:12:28 PM »

I made one 30 years ago for my crazy ex wife's kid. I used a 41 inch 20 guage barrel and an 11 inch pull. Standard drop at the heel and toe. Fit him perfect. He was hitting milk jugs at 25 yards out in the first session. I was loading about 40 grains of powder in it so it didn't beat the tar out of him. He was about nine at the time and sorta small for his age.

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2023, 04:15:23 PM »

wait, he may have been 13. I made it for his birthday and then she skeedaddled. I found somebody carrying that gun around for sale at friendship three months later. Such is life.

Hungry Horse · « **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2023, 05:36:02 PM »

I made one about thirty years ago also. My son was seven, so the gun was built on a much reduced scale. It actually was a trade gun instead of a fowler. It was .410 gauge and the barrel was about 20 inches long. since it was a trade gun I was able to make all of the hardware. The barrel was a heavy round shotgun barrel I found. I hand filed octagon flats, and wedding bands into it. I got the pattern from a paperback tradegun book that had some full sized patterns also. I still have that gun somewhere out in the shop.

Hungry Horse

Ron Scott · « **Reply #4 on:** March 06, 2023, 05:41:40 PM »

Hi Dan,

Are you looking for a pre carve stock or a stock profile? I have a small Austrian Fowler with a trigger pull around 12 inches that could be used to create a profile.

Tim Crosby · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2023, 07:45:48 PM »

I've got these two that, jez I can't remember his name, carves a lot of war clubs...Fred Miller I think copied for me. The finished gun has an 11" pull. I'll send you a tracing if you want it.

Tim

J. Talbert · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2023, 07:53:47 PM »

IIRC, Mike Lea had a kit for a child size smooth bore based on a trade gun design.
That was quite a few years ago. Don’t have any idea if he still has any for sale, and don’t know his contact info.

Jeff

Adrie luke · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2023, 09:57:55 PM »

Dan

I bought five full-scale drawings, I went with the drawings to a print shop.
They made it a pdf for me, it is also possible to print another scale that you think is best for you.

Good luck.

BOB HILL · « **Reply #8 on:** March 07, 2023, 03:10:22 AM »

Clay Smith use to offer a small trade gun, if i remember correctly.
Bob

galudwig · « **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2023, 05:37:29 AM »

I saw this one at Mel and Frank's Fall Frolic in 2020. It was a really fine little rifle. For the life of me, I can't remember the builders name. You might ask Brian Huffman if you know him as I know they are friends.

James Wilson Everett · « **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2023, 03:43:42 PM »

Guys,

Here is one from years ago. I have since sold it and had to replace it with another youth gun for the show-n-tells.

https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=19524.msg184524#msg184524

Jim

Dennis Glazener · « **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2023, 05:27:23 PM »

I believe that is Harold Edwards holding the rifle. He is a KRA and CLA member, his contact info should be available in their directories.
Dennis

Quote from: galudwig on March 07, 2023, 05:37:29 AM

I saw this one at Mel and Frank's Fall Frolic in 2020. It was a really fine little rifle. For the life of me, I can't remember the builders name. You might ask Brian Huffman if you know him as I know they are friends.

tfornicola · « **Reply #12 on:** March 07, 2023, 07:37:50 PM »

Mark Weader has several youth patterns at his shop. 717-543-5370

galudwig · « **Reply #13 on:** March 08, 2023, 04:25:16 AM »

Quote from: Dennis Glazener on March 07, 2023, 05:27:23 PM

I believe that is Harold Edwards holding the rifle. He is a KRA and CLA member, his contact info should be available in their directories.
Dennis

Quote from: galudwig on March 07, 2023, 05:37:29 AM
I saw this one at Mel and Frank's Fall Frolic in 2020. It was a really fine little rifle. For the life of me, I can't remember the builders name. You might ask Brian Huffman if you know him as I know they are friends.

No, that's me holding the rifle made by the builder whose name I can't remember!

delivered · « **Reply #14 on:** March 09, 2023, 08:53:56 PM »

I bought one of Mike Lea's Kid's size trade gun kits way back when!
I still have it ! Un started

Might be interested in selling it!
email me for pictures.

redheart · « **Reply #15 on:** March 10, 2023, 01:40:03 AM »

Interesting,
I didn't think masks and muzzleloaders went together.
At least it's camo

galudwig · « **Reply #16 on:** March 10, 2023, 05:52:42 AM »

Quote from: redheart on March 10, 2023, 01:40:03 AM

Interesting,
I didn't think masks and muzzleloaders went together.
At least it's camo

It was 2020 and at the height of the COVID Wars. We were required to wear masks at the show. Not my choice, that’s for sure…

Daryl · « **Reply #17 on:** March 10, 2023, 05:59:53 AM »

Quote from: redheart on March 10, 2023, 01:40:03 AM

Interesting,
I didn't think masks and muzzleloaders went together.
At least it's camo

Gun shop in Texas had a sign on the front window. "Don't wear masked in here. We shoot people who wear masks".

AMartin · « **Reply #18 on:** March 10, 2023, 04:59:24 PM »

Gun shop in Texas had a sign on the front window. "Don't wear masked in here. We shoot people who wear masks

Seen this same sign at a liquor store in North Dakota .. He meant it too !!

smallpatch · « **Reply #19 on:** March 10, 2023, 05:52:22 PM »

So Al,

What were you doing in a liquor store in North Dakota?

Top Jaw · « **Reply #20 on:** March 10, 2023, 06:30:06 PM »

Quote from: galudwig on March 07, 2023, 05:37:29 AM

I saw this one at Mel and Frank's Fall Frolic in 2020. It was a really fine little rifle. For the life of me, I can't remember the builders name. You might ask Brian Huffman if you know him as I know they are friends.

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Gary is correct. That scaled down Lexington Rifle was made by Marvin Berry of Indiana for his granddaughter Madelynn. It’s not a fowler, but he could probably send you a tracing of the stock profile. He did the build from a blank. PM me if you want his number.
-Brian H

galudwig · « **Reply #21 on:** March 10, 2023, 06:56:05 PM »

Quote from: Top Jaw on March 10, 2023, 06:30:06 PM

Quote from: galudwig on March 07, 2023, 05:37:29 AM
I saw this one at Mel and Frank's Fall Frolic in 2020. It was a really fine little rifle. For the life of me, I can't remember the builders name. You might ask Brian Huffman if you know him as I know they are friends.

——————
Gary is correct. That scaled down Lexington Rifle was made by Marvin Berry of Indiana for his granddaughter Madelynn. It’s not a fowler, but he could probably send you a tracing of the stock profile. He did the build from a blank. PM me if you want his number.
-Brian H

That’s him! Thank you Brian!

smallpatch · « **Reply #22 on:** March 10, 2023, 09:20:11 PM »

Here’s a little Lehigh I built for my grandson several years ago. Just a scaled down version of a Rupp.
Be careful how small you go. Grandson is now 6’3”, and this gun looks like a toy.

redheart · « **Reply #23 on:** March 10, 2023, 09:37:37 PM »

Quote from: Daryl on March 10, 2023, 05:59:53 AM

Quote from: redheart on March 10, 2023, 01:40:03 AM
Interesting,
I didn't think masks and muzzleloaders went together.
At least it's camo

Gun shop in Texas had a sign on the front window. "Don't wear masked in here. We shoot people who wear masks".

Lol !

Randall Steffy · « **Reply #24 on:** March 10, 2023, 10:36:29 PM »

Dane,
That is a beauty, in all regards! I love every aspect of it, and now I am approaching covetousness.

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