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Offline foresterdj

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Buttplate picture I would like to see
« on: March 19, 2023, 12:21:58 AM »
In spite of my self-known lack of inletting skill, I am planning to tackle a Jaeger (probably winter '23-'24) with the fancy buttplate. I have read about inletting this style buttplate and watched videos of other style buttplate inletting until my brain cannot absorb much more, and I am still not seeing the 3D of what is taking place. So many descriptions show a buttplate sitting on raw squared or partially shaped stock, then one picture kind of roughed in then maybe one a little more, then SHAZAM (no copyright infringement to the new movie intended) a beautiful completely inlaid buttplate with no gaps.

What I would love to see would be the stock under this perfectly fit buttplate. That is, once perfect, take the buttplate off and get some good clear pictures showing the wood fit along the edges. It is semi-clear in my mind that there must be a straight vertical, or maybe beveled back/under wood contact along the irregular acanthus leafy comb which then must at a point or in short transition switch to an across the butt flat through the curve and down the rear of the buttplate. I think seeing for sure what the end result wood is supposed to look like would help with this process.

I read often where folks say it is very hard to get the various geometries correct without having a good example in hand for reference, 2D pictures just not good at depicting a 3D item. Unfortunately for me (and I suppose many others dabbling in the gun building hobby), having an example in hand is just not possible.

Offline Ron Scott

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Re: Buttplate picture I would like to see
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2023, 01:08:21 AM »
There are a few Jaegers here to chose from. Do you have a photo of the butt plate you intend to use? I have sets of mounts leftover from my seminars.

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Re: Buttplate picture I would like to see
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2023, 01:29:25 AM »
The kit parts I have on order are from this Sitting Fox Kit, K-19 Jaeger

Kind of hard to see for sure, but I like the Carlsbad pattern from MBS






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Re: Buttplate picture I would like to see
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2023, 03:41:55 AM »
Foresterj,
Hope this helps. I am currently building a Jaeger and here are the pics you aForesters,
William











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Re: Buttplate picture I would like to see
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2023, 03:46:33 AM »
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Hope this helps.

Ron Scott has good castings. This butt plate is from him.

William

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Re: Buttplate picture I would like to see
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2023, 04:05:08 AM »
Oh, excellent. I will study these.

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Re: Buttplate picture I would like to see
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2023, 06:30:58 AM »
If I may make a suggestion about inletting fancy butplates, it would be a good investment to purchase both sets of miniature Dockyard Chisels. It will make inletting more pleasurable. My buttplate was done when Jim Chambers graciously let me use his set to inlet the buttplate on his English Gentlemenís Sporting rifle. Since then I bought my own set.
CheersRichard


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Offline Daryl

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Re: Buttplate picture I would like to see
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2023, 07:40:21 AM »
That one is picky with little things to inlet, tight little corners impossible with much else.
Daryl

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Re: Buttplate picture I would like to see
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2023, 03:24:56 PM »
You most likely already know about  what I am going to say next. IMHO it helps if the wood is not broomy. Knowing when the tools are sharp enough helps. Sometimes I make a pattern out of very thin sheet metal.  And go real slow paper thin cuts or less.
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Offline Bob Roller

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Re: Buttplate picture I would like to see
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2023, 05:14:29 PM »
That requires a level of skill that I really envy but have never tried beyond a simple lock plate.Those are easy but now with an arthritic right shoulder are now off the table.When warm weather arrives I might make some more triggers and will post here if I do.Locks are not on the "To do" list but there is an abundance of them in all common styles from more than one maker.
On 27 March Barbie Chambers and I have birthdays.I am 40 years ahead of her and she had a battle with cancer so send her all the best wishes and I am glad she is still here.We are looking forward to the CLA Show in Lexington and Friendship is not a priority this year.
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Re: Buttplate picture I would like to see
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2023, 05:14:44 PM »
If I may make a suggestion about inletting fancy butplates, it would be a good investment to purchase both sets of miniature Dockyard Chisels. It will make inletting more pleasurable. My buttplate was done when Jim Chambers graciously let me use his set to inlet the buttplate on his English Gentlemenís Sporting rifle. Since then I bought my own set.
CheersRichard
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Your work is really nice!  I looked for the Miniature Dockyard Chisels you referred to, but found there are a plethora of sets. Like...over a dozen.

Can you be more specific as to what set(s) you are referring to?  https://gregdorrance.com/product-category/carving-tools-supplies/wood-carving-hand-tools/carving-gouges/dockyard-micro-tools/

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Re: Buttplate picture I would like to see
« Reply #11 on: Today at 06:20:30 AM »
Steeltrap, these are the Dockyard tools I use.


















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Re: Buttplate picture I would like to see
« Reply #12 on: Today at 04:26:59 PM »
Great information!  Thanks!

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Re: Buttplate picture I would like to see
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Work in (very slow) progress. I get may 0.5mm per session, but I *really* don't want to screw this one up.