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Offline Martin S.

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Anti-seize brand?
« on: April 17, 2023, 02:29:30 AM »
Still collecting materials for an upcoming class.  Watching lots of videos on this website, and Bill Raby's have been really useful.

The last time he installs the breech plug, he puts in anti-seize.

Is there any particular brand I should buy?

What do you folks use?

Thanks for all the help for a new builder.

Martin

Offline Gtrubicon

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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2023, 02:35:29 AM »
I use permatex, bought it at Napa at least 10 years ago. It’s grey in color and will make a mess if you’re not careful. I use Q tips to apply it to what I need it on muzzleloaders.

Offline Joey R

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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2023, 02:45:50 AM »
X’s 2 on Permatex
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Offline smylee grouch

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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2023, 03:47:13 AM »
I bought a medium sized can at a John Deer implement dealer several years ago and still have a good supply left but I know of others that use choke tube grease with good luck.

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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2023, 06:16:48 AM »
There are many different kinds of anti seize.....most have powdered metal in them.  Some are made with powdered copper, some with nickel, some with zinc etc....all for slightly different applications.  Any should work for a black powder breech plug but I use one with copper powder mixed in with the grease base.

https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/us/en/products/industrial-lubricants/anti-seize-compounds.html
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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2023, 06:55:33 AM »
Martin,
One year at a class at WKU in Kentucky, a fellow classmate told me of a really simple “anti-seize” mixture he had been given by an instructor. He said he had used it successfully for a number of years and made breech plug removal simple and painless years after the build was completed. The mixture consisted of graphite powder mixed in with regular old Vasoline until you get a slight grayish color. Try to remember this in case you can’t get commercial antiseize  or run out. Good luck.

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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2023, 03:31:35 PM »
I use Teflon plumber's tape. It is not messy. Have taken out breech plug after ten years and comes of with no problem, still white.
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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2023, 03:39:44 PM »
Teflon tape works great.  I use synthetic  motor oil too.
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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2023, 03:46:48 PM »
Pine tar or Stockholm tar seems to have been used originally on threads at times.
I pulled a breechplug from a rifle barrel that had been hammered muzzle up  into a a hole in a hedge to help fill it, and had been there that long the under-rib had curled up and rusted nearly off.
Bore was as bad as the outside, but when I warmed it, it sizzled and black beads appeared at the breech, and it unscrewed easily with lovely clean threads once the tar was rubbed off.
I smelled of Stockholm tar.

Offline Martin S.

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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2023, 09:08:12 PM »
Thanks everyone, I appreciate the information.

Offline Daryl

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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2023, 11:38:32 PM »
Yamaha sells an anti-seize grease/compound, for threads.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2023, 02:31:39 AM by Daryl »
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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2023, 03:54:14 AM »
 i use permatex also..problem is , get one drop on you and 5 minutes latter you will look like the TIN MAN from OZ

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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2023, 04:32:03 AM »
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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2023, 07:35:19 PM »
Whatever you use, except teflon, make sure you have finished your browning/bluing.  It will seep out and play havoc with your coloring attempts.

Also, the copper antiseize is best and the aluminum is $#@*.  It doesn't hold up well under heat.  I had lubed the nipple on my long range rifle with the aluminum.  At the end of the day, I couldn't get the nipple out and took it to the gunsmith's shed at F'ship.  They had to mount the gun on the drill press and chuck the wrench in the chuck.  It squealed all the way out and I was sure it would take the threads with it, but they were OK.  Back on the line, several commented that they only use the copper variety and one feller gave me some.

If you do any automotive work, you will also know how the aluminum variety works on disc brakes.  The heat drives the oil off leaving the aluminum.  Then you have 2 dissimilar metals subject to constant heat.
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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2023, 07:42:42 PM »
Good to know, Dave. Thanks. I assume the Yamaha stuff is aluminum, due to the colour, but that guesstimate might be incorrect.
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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2023, 09:05:52 PM »
   Go to your local auto parts store and at the checkout counter there's small packs of all kinds of grease there. One pack has enough grease for 5 or more guns.   Al
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Re: Anti-seize brand?
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2023, 12:52:54 AM »
Anti-seize is one of those things where less is more. Don’t get carried away, because you really haven’t cleaned up a real mess until anti-seize starts oozing out onto your nicely browned barrel, and hand rubbed wood finish.

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