Woodrunner

[Daniel Coats]

What the heck is a woodrunner?

[Curtis]

What the heck is a woodrunner?

This should help, some photos of the original: https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=49297.0

Curtis

[Bob Roller]

The single set triggers I am familiar with require them to be set before you can cock the rifle.  The pull is crazy light.  The combination of the two factors is not something I am comfortable with from a safety standpoint.   I have no use for single set triggers if they are all like that. Do they make any set triggers that do not require setting before it will engage halfcock? 

I have no issue with a 3# trigger that is smooth.  You will get an excellent trigger pull with a Kibler lock.  Other than tradition I feel no need for a set trigger.

The single set triggers frequently seen here are primitive.The really fine ones were made by watch makers in the French speaking section of Switzerland.I have heard good reports on the Rice SST's and hope they have a usable variant of the complex Swiss designs.I have made a few of the German design with sliding levers they call Kammerstecher"that depend on precise placement of the pivot placeme nt to get the smooth action needed,
Bob Roller

[Bob Roller]

Looking at the postings/pictures from 2018 and there s no way I can see a double set trigger could have been used in that gun with THAT configuration.Certain parts require specific positions to  be of use and when set triggers are wanted,here must be a specific place in relation to the lock/sear position.I have never understood the need for set triggers on any long rifle because none of them have sights worth mentioning.On most of these old guns the trigger must be set to cock the lock and that is a bad idea.The rear trigger holding the sear out of position is the culprit and unsophisticated lock mechanisms were common in that day and time but no reason to have them today.
   Jim Kibler's fine late Ketland lock lock lends itself to single trigger because the sear/ pivot screw is a precise fit and and the sear rotates on it instead of wobbling around looking for a release point so no need for set triggers on the "Woodsrunners"he makes.
Just my opinion for what little it's worth.
Bob Roller

[Bob Roller]

What the heck is a woodrunner?

It's a cousin to a woodpecker but can't fly ;
Bob Roller

[Daniel Coats]

Thank you Bob spelling does matter!! 

[Bob Roller]

Thank you Bob spelling does matter!! 

Indeed it does.As feeble mindedness sets in after living for 87 years,I remembered the best shooting I ever did with any muzzle loader was with my Whitworth semi military match rifle*.It had a superb "4 pin" Brazier lock and a thin,heavily preloaded mainspring that gave lightning fast ignition and the sear rotated on an axle making a good trigger pull easy to get.The lock will determine the trigger pull on any single trigger muzzle loader or breech loader and a close fitting screw thru the sear is needed to attain this.
Bob Roller

[TDM]

Thank you Bob spelling does matter!! 

Indeed it does.As feeble mindedness sets in after living for 87 years,I remembered the best shooting I ever did with any muzzle loader was with my Whitworth semi military match rifle*.It had a superb "4 pin" Brazier lock and a thin,heavily preloaded mainspring that gave lightning fast ignition and the sear rotated on an axle making a good trigger pull easy to get.The lock will determine the trigger pull on any single trigger muzzle loader or breech loader and a close fitting screw thru the sear is needed to attain this.
Bob Roller

Can’t argue with that Bob, agree with the lock determining single trigger pull. A well polished trigger bar and sear helps too.