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Offline flatsguide

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Hooked breech bedding plate
« on: July 20, 2023, 04:14:46 PM »
Do you guys inlay a piece of hardened steel into the wood for the breech plug of a hooked breech to ride/slide on when assembling the rifle? I was thinking of attaching a small thin strip of steel to the bottom of the standing part of a hooked breech system that extends forward a bit for the bbl/breech to ride on.
Thanks, Richard

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Re: Hooked breech bedding plate
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2023, 05:37:59 PM »
Have not seen it. I think the slant breech style diminishes any rubbing.
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Re: Hooked breech bedding plate
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2023, 07:14:33 PM »
Richard:  when you inlet a hooked breech barrel with a standing breech tang, there should be clearance behind the standing breech for the hook as it rotates upward...it should not contact wood, so a wear plate is superfluous.
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Re: Hooked breech bedding plate
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2023, 08:30:51 PM »
Can we stop over engineering these muzzleloading rifles.  This is the second or third thread I have read this past week that just blows me away how we keep trying to reinvent the wheel.  These rifles have been around for several hundred years and the original designs have more than stood the test of time.
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Re: Hooked breech bedding plate
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2023, 12:57:54 AM »
Hi Richard,
That is a good question. You don't need a wear plate on the bottom.  The back of the hook is slanted so it does not scrape the bottom of the stock.



Also the hook does not need to be deep.  The deep Thompson Center style is silly and totally unnecessary. With a deeper hook, you may need to notch the back so it clears the rear lock bolt.
 


Make that notch very sloppy as shown in the photo so the barrel can be removed without the rear ock bolt needing to be removed.  I urge you to consider two other details.  First, make sure the standing breech has either a lug on the bottom for a cross pin through the stock or a threaded hole for a screw coming up from the trigger guard.  That anchors the bottom of the breech securely so no levering by the barrel will raise it.  Second, taper the slot in the standing breech so it narrows toward the top and do the same with the hook.
 






That assures a snug fit of the barrel when seated in the breech.

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Re: Hooked breech bedding plate
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2023, 06:31:57 AM »
Dave, sorry my question got your drawers in a knot.
I had a 1857 or so Samuel Nock SxS shotgun that had a metal plate that the Plugs rode on and was thinking this may have been done on single barrel guns too.
Thanks guys.
Richard