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Offline Leatherbark

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Questions about the Flint Seneca Run at Friendship
« on: September 04, 2023, 11:16:07 PM »
Guess I'll try the Flint Seneca Run at Friendship this coming Saturday or Sunday. I understand it will be 300 yards long. I am curious how many target stations? When I register at the clubhouse target room, do they give me the targets and I post them before the run?  I have done the woodswalk plenty of times but never anything else on the primitive side.

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Re: Questions about the Flint Seneca Run at Friendship
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2023, 04:44:36 PM »
Let us know, Stoner and i have been thinking about entering.
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Re: Questions about the Flint Seneca Run at Friendship
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2023, 05:24:46 PM »
I don’t see any running of any kind in my future…..
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Re: Questions about the Flint Seneca Run at Friendship
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2023, 08:18:39 PM »
LOL
 Reminds me of a Seneca run back in the 70's.  I was shooting a Bauska .45 bl. that hed forgotten on the rifling machine. The bore was .448" and grooves were .028" deep for a groove to groove of .504". I was using a .457" ball and a .022" denim patch. This combo didn't get to the bottom of the grooves, but still shot very well and quite cleanly. Between the start and the first target, running, I lost my short starter, but was able to finish the course and got 3rd place. I merely choked up on the rod to an inch and pushed that snug combo into the bore with constant hard pressure. After in the bore, it went down nicely. Spit lube. 3/8" hickory rod, BTW.
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Re: Questions about the Flint Seneca Run at Friendship
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2023, 02:52:59 AM »
Seneca Runs that I have participated in required very strenuous runs through tangled bush, shooting at steel gongs along the way, making fire with flint and steel, setting a beaver trap in a stream without putting your rifle down, and trying to keep your heart from busting out through your buckskin shirt.  Not for love nor money would I attempt one again.
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Re: Questions about the Flint Seneca Run at Friendship
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2023, 04:16:21 PM »
Read the 2022 rules.
5 shots offhand from 5 stations at various targets and distances. Load from pouch and horn. No pre-measured charges. Costume of the 1750 - 1840 period.  No auxiliary ramrod. 10 minute time limit. 300yard round trip course.

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Re: Questions about the Flint Seneca Run at Friendship
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2023, 05:41:47 PM »
Try to find out how the match is scored.  Sometimes the points are based on time and others on accuracy.  This allows you to "game" the match.  If time is not a factor and you only have to complete the course within the time limit, you don't have to kill yourself trying to run.  All the factors need to be considered to develop your strategy to do well.
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Re: Questions about the Flint Seneca Run at Friendship
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2023, 02:00:24 AM »
I got to try this course in the spring shoot at Friendship. It was a lot of fun and the fellow running the match was very kind. I'd never done one before. He told me that time worked like this: the course is an out and back. You travel out, then shoot 5 targets on the way back. No fire starts etc. Anyone who isn't back at the starting line within 10 minutes is disqualified.

However, as long as you are under 10 minutes, time only serves as a tie breaker. He told me that some of the expert shooters had concluded it was better to walk swiftly between targets rather than run, so as to keep pulse and respiration rates lower. I decided, however, that I'd have more fun if I ran like $#*! in between targets (load at each station, no running with a loaded gun)! I ran it twice, once in the flintlock category, once in the open category. My first run went really well in terms of targets hit and I was well under time both runs (actually ran the same time to the second). The targets were pre-hung by the person running the match so they were a surprise to me on the first run.

They also allow non-period footwear for safety sake. That grass is slick as banana peels wet or dry, and they don't want any broken legs.

Have fun out there!

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Re: Questions about the Flint Seneca Run at Friendship
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2023, 09:42:48 PM »
From seeing some videos of the runs from a few years ago, the targets looks pretty small and were paper and not just usual round targets with varying rings. How are they scored?
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Re: Questions about the Flint Seneca Run at Friendship
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2023, 10:52:57 PM »
The animal targets have point values.  You can check them out at the NMLRA website.