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Original Screw tip horn, leather wrapped Philadelphia
« on: October 09, 2023, 10:15:19 PM »
Leather wrapped. Very nice



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Re: Original York Cty Screw tip horn
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2023, 01:28:27 AM »
Now that's a really neat looking horn! Does "York City" mean it deviates a little from the standard York horn we normally see with decorative chip carving on plug? When you get tired of it, I'll be glad to take it off your hands!

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Re: Original York Cty Screw tip horn
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2023, 02:04:56 PM »
Thanks Shelby. Cty being abbreviation of County. This horn came over the Appalachians With the Amsler family to Clarion County PA in the early 1800s and remained with its original Samuel grove rifle for over 200 years. It appears to have gotten a lot of use judging from the wear on the leather wrap.
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Re: Original York Cty Screw tip horn
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2023, 06:19:39 PM »
Wow, it's great to get to see an original, Thanks for sharing it.

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Re: Original York Cty Screw tip horn
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2023, 06:25:26 PM »
Nice horn, but it looks more like a Philidelphia screw tip than a York...IMO
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Re: Original York Cty Screw tip horn
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2023, 06:35:31 PM »
 I've tried to post on this two times, must not have hit "Post". I agree with Dan, looks like an early "Philly" horn based on the collar and the tip. Also with the base band hidden under the leather. Looks like three bands are hidden under the leather that were probably added sometime in its life line.

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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2023, 08:00:17 PM »
In these pics there are very thin bands (like the width of a pencil lead) on the horn that wore off like the leather did. You can just see them peeking out. I’m going to run the metal detector over the butt end and see if there is a silver band around the plug end.
















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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2023, 08:16:02 PM »
The band around the plug, and must be horn because it did not register on the equinox
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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2023, 04:22:56 PM »
 Is there a seam where it was sewn around the horn? If not it may be the skin of the leg of a deer , maybe. It certainly has seen a lot of use, quite a find.

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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2023, 06:38:51 PM »
Is there a seam where it was sewn around the horn? If not it may be the skin oof the leg of a deer , maybe. It certainly has seen a lot of use, quite a find.

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Here’s a shot of the seam


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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2023, 09:03:33 PM »
 Ok, thanks, I didn't see it. I have made leather covered horns with the same seam.

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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2023, 12:37:57 AM »
This looks like the horn that George Carroll owned years ago. I am in love with your horn!! Great horn!

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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2023, 03:15:42 AM »
Thank you.
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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2023, 03:23:52 PM »
Very cool!  Thank you for sharing

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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2024, 02:32:19 AM »
WOW ! What a killer horn !!!

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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2024, 04:42:35 AM »
Shreck,

Do you have any pictures of the Samuel Grove rifle?
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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2024, 05:54:58 PM »
WOW!!!!   That is one neat horn. It ooezs history.
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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2024, 07:05:16 PM »
What a Great looking horn!
But how did it get separated from the rifle, or did you get the rifle as well?
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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2024, 08:09:54 PM »
Thanks Gentlemen. I have the Samuel Grove rifle it was with though I think it was restocked 180 years ago in its period of use and then reconverted to flint in the 20th century.
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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2024, 01:11:22 AM »
Is this the same one that Madison Grant owned? Great horn.

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Re: Original Screw tip horn. Philadelphia?
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2024, 03:14:12 PM »
Is this the same one that Madison Grant owned? Great horn.

   Not unless the history I was told was inaccurate. It would be interesting to know.
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Re: Original Screw tip horn, leather wrapped Philadelphia
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2024, 03:10:30 PM »
Anyone else wonder how long it took to rub through the leather like this?
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Re: Original Screw tip horn, leather wrapped Philadelphia
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2024, 08:56:19 PM »
Not really... my dog can do it in less than a minute.

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Re: Original Screw tip horn, leather wrapped Philadelphia
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2024, 04:31:14 AM »
That is a fantastic horn.  I sure wish it could tell us some tales.  It obviously has a few.

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Re: Original Screw tip horn, leather wrapped Philadelphia
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2024, 02:52:56 PM »
Not really... my dog can do it in less than a minute.

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Our dog can chew the cover off of a Titleist in less than 60 seconds. Pretty sure it’s a world record.
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