Author Topic: DELUX SILER VS Late Ketland Flintlock  (Read 809 times)

Offline recurve

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DELUX SILER VS Late Ketland Flintlock
« on: January 26, 2024, 07:29:47 PM »
 not building a historic rifle what lock is faster/ easier on flints or is Kiblers worth a look (all my flinters but one have silers grandson has a L&R replacement)











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Offline mgbruch

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Re: DELUX SILER VS Late Ketland Flintlock
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2024, 07:47:51 PM »
The Chambers alate Ketland uses the same internal parts as their large Siler.

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Re: DELUX SILER VS Late Ketland Flintlock
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2024, 07:53:18 PM »
Both are good. I have had real good luck with flint life with both and at my age the speed difference won,t matter.

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Re: DELUX SILER VS Late Ketland Flintlock
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2024, 08:51:15 PM »
Two fastest locks I have used. Chambers early and late Ketlands.
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Re: DELUX SILER VS Late Ketland Flintlock
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2024, 09:54:33 PM »
I'm with Mike on Chambers locks being FAST. The only other lock I've seen as fast or faster was an L&R Dickert lock. No changes to the lock
but it was FAST. Maybe I was just lucky. Taylor noted at one rendezvous, THAT lock is as fast as any "Chambers" I've had.
I will note, that Chambers locks have always impressed me. I have not paid attention to any others though, so cannot comment on Kibler's locks.
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Re: DELUX SILER VS Late Ketland Flintlock
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2024, 10:59:23 PM »
Chambers are not only fast but dependable sparkers. The Deluxe Siler on my .54 cal Beck rifle is now 21 years old. I shoot with my club every month and with another club 3 or 4 times a year. That's about 320 shots a year and I can easily count the misfires on one hand. That's important because our primitive group counts a fall of the hammer (and no fire) as a missed shot. I can sometimes beat our best shooters because they had 2 or 3 clatches!
The Chambers Ketlands are awesome too!
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Re: DELUX SILER VS Late Ketland Flintlock
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2024, 02:20:48 PM »
They are both great locks I almost always used the late Ketland since it's an English style lock and the most of the rifles I built required an English lock. When I did build a rifle that required a Germanic lock I used a Chambers Siler lock.
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Re: DELUX SILER VS Late Ketland Flintlock
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2024, 05:38:20 PM »
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CWo6-MvF8wU/?igsh=b3kyYTJiOGkxMnA4

The above link is to an instagram post I did in 2021. It is of a rifle I built using one of Jim Chambers Golden Age locks. Most of the locks being produced today are fast. You have to have it properly installed with a properly set up vent to get real speed.
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Re: DELUX SILER VS Late Ketland Flintlock
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2024, 09:24:59 PM »
I have had great success with the Late Ketland lock, both for speed, reliability and ease on flints. Can't go wrong with either a Chambers or Kibler.
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Re: DELUX SILER VS Late Ketland Flintlock
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2024, 09:27:56 PM »
I’m of course biased, but for a step up, go with our late Ketland lock.  Our production techniques and design in my view result in a little better performance.

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Re: DELUX SILER VS Late Ketland Flintlock
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2024, 11:17:10 PM »
The last three rifles I’ve built all had late Ketlands, I’ve gone two Kibler and one Chambers.
Speed wise, I can’t tell a difference, and have had onlookers comment on how fast both locks are.
That being said, I have a slight preference for the Kibler, better finish, and I prefer the linked mainspring design.
In fact I have one on my bench now going in my current build shortly.
But it really comes down to Chevy or Ford, they’re both fine locks from highly respected manufacturers.
Bob

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Re: DELUX SILER VS Late Ketland Flintlock
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2024, 12:45:52 AM »
I’m of course biased, but for a step up, go with our late Ketland lock.  Our production techniques and design in my view result in a little better performance.
You ought to send me a couple salesman samples so I can test them out. ;)
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Re: DELUX SILER VS Late Ketland Flintlock
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2024, 01:26:49 AM »
I’m of course biased, but for a step up, go with our late Ketland lock.  Our production techniques and design in my view result in a little better performance.
You ought to send me a couple salesman samples so I can test them out. ;)

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