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Offline Old Ford2

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Aqua fortis stain
« on: December 20, 2009, 09:32:42 PM »
What strength of nitric acid is used to make up aqua fortis stain?
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Re: Aqua fortis stain
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2009, 10:52:18 PM »
The nitric acid I have is marked 68-70%.  It was given to me by a friend who uses it in his business.  I suppose there may be other concentrations.  I have made AF with it and it works.

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Re: Aqua fortis stain
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2009, 01:42:07 AM »
Mine is 69%.  I cut it 4 to 1 with water before adding iron turnings.
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Re: Aqua fortis stain
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2009, 02:31:32 AM »
Please forgive me for it has no doubt been asked before of this forum but where is the best place to acquire nitric acid? Cost? Shipping? I did a google on it and for a 32 oz. bottle on one supplier they were asking $68? plus $28 hazmat fee from FedEx? Is this normal or have I misread something terribly? In advance, much thanks and Merry Christmas.
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Re: Aqua fortis stain
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2009, 02:54:39 AM »
Try to find out where your local high school or college gets its lab supplies.
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Re: Aqua fortis stain
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2009, 05:13:13 AM »
I got mine from the local pharmacy.  I can't remember what I paid (probably too much), but do remember shipping being kinda steep. 

Mine is 70% and the last batch I did, I cut it 6 to 1.

Which brings me to a question and I don't want to hijack Old Ford's original question but...  Does it really matter what the ratio is?  I ask that because if you add metal 'till it stops reacting, isn't it doing the same thing?  Or is a more acidic ratio going have more iron in it?  Hope that makes sense...

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Re: Aqua fortis stain
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2009, 04:37:08 PM »
I got mine from the local pharmacy.  I can't remember what I paid (probably too much), but do remember shipping being kinda steep. 

Mine is 70% and the last batch I did, I cut it 6 to 1.

Which brings me to a question and I don't want to hijack Old Ford's original question but...  Does it really matter what the ratio is?  I ask that because if you add metal 'till it stops reacting, isn't it doing the same thing?  Or is a more acidic ratio going have more iron in it?  Hope that makes sense...

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I got something in the 70% range, really aggressive stuff, and I dilute 50-50 or 3:1.

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Re: Aqua fortis stain
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2009, 05:01:40 PM »
Here is a link to the supplier that I use.  http://kyantec.com/  I have had good luck with them every time.  They like catering to the hobbiest.
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Re: Aqua fortis stain
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2009, 05:51:19 PM »
Mine is considered 'red fuming' and is as concentrated as you can get!( analytical / Trace  grading) Of course I work in an Environmental lab, and we normally use the stuff for Metals digestion in W/WW samples!   ;)

Dilute 1:10 it is still way strong, and will 'digest' iron like a buggar!!!

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Re: Aqua fortis stain
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2009, 06:06:21 PM »
I got some from a water treatment plant. The guy said it's used to settle out sediment.

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Re: Aqua fortis stain
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2009, 05:15:14 AM »
Thanks Dave, Your link is just across the river from me in Louisville, Ky. Thanks again!
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