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Offline Gaeckle

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Inletting black?
« on: February 28, 2024, 05:00:32 AM »
I have noticed that there doesn't seem to be any Jerro's inletting black. What gives?
Anybody got a formula for concocting your own?

Offline Habu

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2024, 06:21:22 AM »
The first inletting black I was taught to use was actually red lead in oil ("inletting orange").  In the years since then I usually use Permatex non-drying Prussian blue (auto parts store) or a dry erase marker.  The nice thing about the dry erase markers is that I can usually find a color that contrasts well with whatever wood I'm working with.

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2024, 07:17:08 AM »
Second on the dry erase markers. Works well without the mess of inletting Black.

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2024, 07:32:33 AM »
Most inletting black is far to oily as received and needs to be left open, throw the cap away and the excess oil sopped up to male it less fluid. Soft lead pencil rubbed on the metal will work and is way less messy. The dry erase markers are a really good idea. May have to try them.
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Offline Clowdis

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2024, 04:41:37 PM »
Track shows it in their catalog but not in stock. At least this looks like they intend to get some more at some point in time.  https://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/1021/1

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2024, 04:47:28 PM »
plain old soot from an oil lamp with the chimney removed.

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2024, 05:24:00 PM »
Soot from cheap candles works well also.
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Offline Kevin Houlihan

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2024, 05:29:10 PM »
 I’ve used oil lamp soot, pencil lead and sharpie markers. I really like the Sharpie. I get the fattest ones I can find.

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2024, 05:34:36 PM »
I'm in the Sharpie camp.
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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2024, 05:42:29 PM »
i accidentally picked up, and used, a Sharpie permanent marker once instead of the dry erase marker.  Didnt realize it until I saw that I had two on the bench.  I noticed no difference in the way they worked... so I use whichever is closest now.   The Sharpie permanent marker seems to not rub off as easy on my fingers, so may be a bit better?   

 I guess 'permanent' is only on certain surfaces? ::)

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2024, 07:34:59 PM »
  I'm now in the Sharpie camp too.. Used to use soot an from my
 machine ing days. Learned to highly dislike Prussian blue.JMPO
« Last Edit: March 02, 2024, 06:36:32 PM by oldtravler61 »

Offline ScottH

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2024, 07:40:30 PM »
I did a "search" and found that Treebone Carving or Trinidad State College bookstore "may?" have some left in stock if you must have inletting black

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2024, 07:50:32 PM »
I recently found some very old Prussian blue in a used tool place.  It seems to have more pigment in it than the new stuff.

 I like the big fat industrial sharpies better though. 

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2024, 07:52:22 PM »
I try to avoid conventional inletting black due to the mess.  I use hurricane lamp for larger parts like the barrel, and sharpie marker for smaller parts.  As someone else said, the big fat one with rectangular tip seems to work well.

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2024, 06:58:02 AM »
Soot from cheap candles works well also.
Lynn

This is what I use. Tried inletting black, but it was such a mess.

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2024, 01:09:48 PM »
Well I like Jerros and have used it for many years, but admit to occasional acetylene soot and markers. Also I work with walnut alot and it shows up nicely.
A Q tip to apply it on small parts and a 1/2" flux brush for barrels, remember you don't need alot to make the transfer.
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Offline Kevin Houlihan

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2024, 03:02:12 PM »
I also use red lipstick applied with an acid brush.  Readily available and cheap.  Bright red lipstick is great for using on walnut.

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2024, 03:25:50 PM »
I'm in the Sharpie camp.

Yup....---^^^--- This. My last build I used Inletting black. This one I'm using Sharpie. Sharpie is far easier to control, not messy and gives the same results.

Except for the Sharpie black on my hands here 'n there I like it much better than the black goop.

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2024, 04:55:55 PM »
Prussian blue and a dedicated old toothbrush.


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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2024, 07:39:19 PM »
I find that the big fat sharpie marker transfer when there is pressure between the parts.  This avoid false marks and mess.  I get a much better job with marker than other spotting compounds and no mess.  Spotting compounds and soot transfer at the slightest touch.  For inletting that shows I want the parts to fit together with no gaps, which means they are touching. 

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2024, 01:05:07 AM »
Prussian blue and a dedicated old toothbrush.


Kevin

That is what I use.  I slipped the cover for a pill container over the handle so I can slip the brush into the pill container when not in use.  Tried several other products, but keep coming back to the PB.

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2024, 01:49:49 AM »
I use an oil lamp. The smell gives me that "woodsy - old timey" atmosphere.   JZ


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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2024, 08:14:00 PM »
I never heard of the Sharpie method. Is this a different sharpie than the normal sized ones I have all over my house? The color that these transfer dries very quickly. I don’t see how they could be useful to transfer it to another material. Which sharpies is everyone speaking about?

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Re: Inletting black?
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2024, 09:59:32 PM »
"I never heard of the Sharpie method. Is this a different sharpie than the normal sized ones I have all over my house? The color that these transfer dries very quickly. I don’t see how they could be useful to transfer it to another material. Which sharpies is everyone speaking about?"

The regular ones are fine.  The big fat ones are juicer and go a bit faster.  Dry sharpie transfers fine if there in interference in the fit.  Tap the metal with a mallet.   For dark woods they make silver sharpie.  Search "jumbo sharpie".  I first found them at a janitorial supply. Any large marker that works on metal is fine as are dry erase.