Sketching for a Woodsrunner build

[Yazel.xring]

Hi all, I’ve got a Kibler Woodsrunner in the shop to build for a friend and am trying to plan out some carving.

I’ve been studying some of the builds on the forum and others I’ve been able to see in person.

Using all of this for reference I’ve laid out the sketches below and am open to critique. I’m planning on keeping it simple with carved lines and some relief as needed.



Thank you for your time

[smart dog]

Hi Ethan,
That would work very well.  It is simple, consistent for the gun and looks great.  My only suggestion is to have the lower butt stock molding line terminate much less abruptly.  Have it fade out gradually and much closer to the trigger.

dave

[Yazel.xring]

Thank you Dave! I’ll make adjustments. Much appreciated

[Blacksmoke]

Ethan:  As a side note to assembling the Kibbler kit - when you install the cross pins for the barrel make sure that the holes in the barrel lugs are slotted slightly to the rear. This will allow the stock to shrink backwards if it wants to as the stock wood dries out. Even though the wood is kiln dried it can still shrink slightly over time.  Hugh Toenjes

[J Shingler]

You can always tell the artist in the group. LOL I like this a lot. Simple but yet it will set it apart from all the others. Nice planning Ethan.

[Yazel.xring]

You can always tell the artist in the group. LOL I like this a lot. Simple but yet it will set it apart from all the others. Nice planning Ethan.

Thank you, paper is one thing, we will see about wood 

Ethan:  As a side note to assembling the Kibbler kit - when you install the cross pins for the barrel make sure that the holes in the barrel lugs are slotted slightly to the rear. This will allow the stock to shrink backwards if it wants to as the stock wood dries out. Even though the wood is kiln dried it can still shrink slightly over time.  Hugh Toenjes

Thanks Hugh, thankfully Mr. Kibler ships the lugs slotted on this one. Pretty wild.

[hanshi]

Subtle and somewhat minimalist carving appeals to me much more than even a masterful but overwhelming job.  You can always add but you can not always take away.

[duca]

I like it

[Bob Gerard]

Simple, incise carvings like you designed for the butt can add a lot to the piece.  The carving behind the tang looks like it will be a bit trickier. Keep us posted!

[Yazel.xring]

Simple, incise carvings like you designed for the butt can add a lot to the piece.  The carving behind the tang looks like it will be a bit trickier. Keep us posted!

Thank you Bob. Finished my second round of scraping yesterday. Laying this out on the stock soon.

[Yazel.xring]

Letting it simmer here tonight. Be about time to make something permanent here soon

[Robert Hill]

Everything looks like it will carve well. Nothing looks terribly difficult in terms on reachable with tools. The butt carvings should be very easy to clean with nice sharp scrapers. Looking forward to seeing it carved, Ethan! Make it permanent!
-Robert Hill

[Nordnecker]

On the scroll at the rear of the cheek piece, it looks like the radius is longer at 12 o’clock than it is at 9. Maybe this is intentional.

[David Rase]

On the scroll at the rear of the cheek piece, it looks like the radius is longer at 12 o’clock than it is at 9. Maybe this is intentional.

I was thinking the same thing, the hump at 10 o'clock looks awkward and does not flow well from into the volute.    It looks too mechanical and not organic enough.  My 2 cents worth.
David

[Yazel.xring]

On the scroll at the rear of the cheek piece, it looks like the radius is longer at 12 o’clock than it is at 9. Maybe this is intentional.

I was thinking the same thing, the hump at 10 o'clock looks awkward and does not flow well from into the volute.    It looks too mechanical and not organic enough.  My 2 cents worth.
David

Thank you both!!

Everything looks like it will carve well. Nothing looks terribly difficult in terms on reachable with tools. The butt carvings should be very easy to clean with nice sharp scrapers. Looking forward to seeing it carved, Ethan! Make it permanent!
-Robert Hill

Putting on  flight goggles lol

[Bill Raby]

Are you doing video for it?

[Bob Gerard]

PS; Did you start practicing on a block of similar wood? (Kibler offers them)
Drawing and carving are not the same 😉

[mountainman]

On the scroll at the rear of the cheek piece, it looks like the radius is longer at 12 o’clock than it is at 9. Maybe this is intentional.

I was thinking the same thing, the hump at 10 o'clock looks awkward and does not flow well from into the volute.    It looks too mechanical and not organic enough.  My 2 cents worth.
David

I would agree it looks like the curve is too high, the lower curve line that was erased would seem to flow better.

[Daryl]

Agreeing whole heartedly with mountainman. It more perfectly matches the drawing ahead of the cheek piece as well.

[Marcruger]

A trick for any drawing.......draw it out and hold it up to the mirror.  Any error will jump out at you.  I was told that what it does is double the actual error, so you really see it.  Hope this helps.   Best wishes,   Marc

[D. Taylor Sapergia]

For the moulding line along the bottom edge of the buttstock, personally, I like it to be wider at the buttplate and grow narrower toward the trigger, terminating a little less abruptly.  If it were mine, I'd likely start out at the buttplate at about 5/16 to 3/8" wide tapering it down evenly to a little over 1/8" and then flaring out.  But it is a personal choice. 

[Yazel.xring]

It's been slow going, but I've got some updates. Still much work to be done.


















Getting great pointers from Wayne and Mike Miller already here at Friendship, getting some more thoughts before I head home to finish the carving and get this ready to drop off at CLA.

Thanks all for the discussion around this. It's been an interesting exercise.

[bama]

Ethan, I like your design and you are executing it very well. It will be a great looking rifle. Good work young man.

[Steeltrap]

Very nice!

[Bob Gerard]

Nice photos!
You are utilizing the cast shadows well for your work. I think you will have a really nice piece here