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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2024, 05:44:15 PM »
  Ok we are getting way off track again. But does anyone know of someone who makes small flintlocks..?  Not tiny miniatures say a two inch long lock plate...?  For a 22 caliber pellet project I have in mind for a friends grand child.

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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2024, 06:41:42 PM »
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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2024, 06:57:24 PM »
  Thank you but I'm looking for a lock.

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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2024, 08:07:02 PM »

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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2024, 08:19:48 PM »
Those are really fun to look at. Just think of the difficulty involved. I remember seeing Hacker Martin holding one that he made once.
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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2024, 08:29:50 PM »
I wonder who could make a barrel for such a small thing!
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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2024, 08:44:18 PM »
Would that barrel be swamped or straight? Rifled or smooth? Full octagon or half round? Jaeger or longrifle?
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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2024, 09:14:47 PM »
Oldtraveler; What calibers do they normally come in? And what loads do you recommend?
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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2024, 10:41:47 PM »
Would that barrel be swamped or straight? Rifled or smooth? Full octagon or half round? Jaeger or longrifle?
I think swamped oct on the ends and straight round in the middle would be perfect for a project l Ike this. Or maybe not.
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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2024, 01:22:38 AM »
Years ago ... I bought a barrel fresh off the mill from Don Getz .. A 1/2 scale Oct-to-round fowler barrel .
This one ia 22" long , and a smooth .315" bore size ,   It's profile is like the Chambers Fowler which is 44" and a 20 ga (62) ..
Nicely breeched .. signed Getz ... Sweet !!
I have been wanting to build a 1/2 scale gun but , sorta lost interest but really Like the barrel !!

Check in with Paul Hamler on small stuff .. he has it all .. Lock Stock & barrel ...



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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2024, 04:27:08 AM »
  The barrel I have is from a gallery gun in 22 caliber. It is a straight barrel right now. But could take a file to it. Might just taper it instead. I figure five grains of 3 f powder to start. Making the breech plug tomorrow.  Allen you have any info on how to reach Paul Hamler..?  I can make the trigger guard out of steel an all the pipes. Maybe even the patch box or a grease hole who knows. But it will be fun...

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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2024, 10:19:01 AM »
Oldtravler

Sometimes I use translation into Dutch, which doesn't always work well, that's why I responded with flints.
 
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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2024, 10:25:24 AM »

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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2024, 08:07:16 PM »
  Andrie no problem at all. I took your chart an figured what size counts I need. The only cost to this is going to be the lock. If I had your skill like others on here I'd try. 
  Thanks for all the help..😊
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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2024, 09:43:13 PM »
Several years back, I saw some pictures off a British frigate that Daryl Sapergia of this forum had made.  Museum quality work.  I would imagine he could build a mini-flintlock if the mood struck him.

Me?  With my ten thumbs, rather doubt it.
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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2024, 09:44:47 AM »
I have some castings for a flintlock that are about 3 7/8" long. The plate could possibly be shortened a little.
You would need to fit & finish the castings.
If interested I could post images. Have both right & left. For double barrel pistols...

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Re: Miniature flintlocks
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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2024, 09:57:12 PM »
I have never understood the why of something like these minis.. I appreciate the talent used but time could be better spent.

There is a strong bunch of miniature collectors. I've seen guns of that size go for over ten grand.
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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2024, 11:36:21 PM »
I have never understood the why of something like these minis.. I appreciate the talent used but time could be better spent.

I assume this is what the AR guys think about our stuff....

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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2024, 12:50:06 AM »
Those small rifles are works of art and speak for themselves. It’s not always about purpose, it’s about how it makes you feel and think.

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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2024, 12:06:05 PM »
That’s cool and all, BUT I don’t get it. All that Talent should be better spent on a Full sized Gun. Just my 2 cents
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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2024, 03:47:46 PM »

    Still a response.

In 2014 I was feeling really bad, as an escape I went into the garage and tried to make miniature flintlock rifles.

I emailed Paul Hamler for a rifling gun barrel, he sent a drawing
of a rifling bench and gave me the confidence that I could do it myself.
He helped me a lot and also sent my first PDF drawing of a Lancaster rifle.

I wanted to engrave a patch box, when I got it back engraved it came with a chisel and a note, you can do this yourself.

Some time later I saw a Swivel breech rifle from David Price on the internet.
I emailed David to ask how his system worked, he sent pictures, then we connected and he made me feel really good.
In 2014 he introduced me to ALR.

This is how I came into contact with Norm Johnsen (showmi). He is a pilot and flew to the Netherlands and visited me. That was a beautiful time. Now he only flies domestic flights. That's too bad.

I met Hans Muller in the Netherlands, a special person with beautiful stories.

My wife and I went to Norm and David's house in America
and also met John Rider and I felt the guns, which is what Mike Brooks says.
The members of ALR told me what I was doing right and wrong.
This motivated me to do my best.
And that also gave me a pat on the head.
What do you mean make miniatures? It has given me a lot.

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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2024, 05:22:44 PM »
The Maslin lock was the smallest I ever made. I looked at the TRS online catalog and had to shut down and restart this laptop to get rid of it.
I liked their printed catalog and sold it to someone on this forum.
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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2024, 06:55:49 PM »
Adrie, some folks get it and some folks don't. It's no problem for those that don't get the miniatures as long as they don't try to ruin every bodies else's fun. The first time I saw a miniature, it was one of Gerald Neaves. I could not be leave the detail, not only that but it was fully functional. It's all I can do to build a full size rifle, so to say I was impressed with his skill is an understatement.

I ran into Paul Himmler later at one of the shows. Paul work and tools are amazing. Ardie, keep smiling and enjoying.
 
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Re: Miniature flintlocks
« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2024, 07:46:59 PM »
I find some of the comments to be a veiled sanctimonious disdain for the miniature rifle pursuit. The level of skill amazes me and is of a quality few builders can match on a full size project. So if its not your cup of tea move on.
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