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Offline Outlander

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Woodsrunner shooting far left
« on: May 24, 2024, 06:22:16 AM »
Today I finally got around to trying to get my Kibler Woodsrunner on target .
What happened is that with both the front and rear sights centered on the barrel  it was shooting 10 inches left of the Bullseye at 40 yards .
I had to move both sights all the way out to get it to shoot centered on the target . (see pics)
What is going on here ? My Southern Mountain Rifle shoots perfectly with the sights exactly centered .
The end of the barrel was firmly wedged into the heavy rest that I was using . ( I think I can rule out flinching )






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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2024, 07:47:43 AM »
Did you try different weight powder charges, patch thickness or even ball size? You have a lot to make up there, do you have someone else that can shoot the rifle to get another view at it?

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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2024, 07:52:21 AM »
I have an Ithaca Hawken that I had to have the sights just as yours are, I was still chasing it when I realized the rear sight was loose in the dovetail. Check both sight dovetails, to make sure sight is solid. Index with tape on barrel and sight to mark to ensure no movement.

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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2024, 02:25:59 PM »
Does the bore look centered at the muzzle or slightly askew to one side? Just a thought.

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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2024, 03:04:42 PM »
Take the barrel out of the stock and check to see if it is bent on a straight edge.
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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2024, 03:14:51 PM »
Call Jim Kibler. If it’s wrong he’ll make it right.
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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2024, 05:29:23 PM »
Unless the photo is distorted, those sights are not centered.  The back sight is to the right and the front sight looks to the left.
Thing I don't understand that they way they appear to me, would make it shoot to the right??
Maybe just an illusion, but to me here, they look pretty far off center?

Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2024, 05:51:42 PM »
The OP said in his post he had to go to that sight position to get his rifle to shoot down the middle. With the sights centered his rifle shot 10" to the left.

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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2024, 06:43:25 PM »
Pushing the rear site to the right will cause the POI to move right. Pushing the front site to the left will also (or in addition) cause the POI to move to the right.

I'm sure Jim will stand behind his product and provide sound advice or replacement.

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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2024, 07:44:51 PM »
just for the heck of it, I would shoot the gun with it resting on top of the bag rest, with the bag crosswise at about the entry pipe. 

That may help tell you if one of the lugs or pins may be in tension, or if the bag rest is putting pressure somewhere. 

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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2024, 07:47:59 PM »
 Is the barrel making contact all along the channel and that it is not canted? Have you tried backing off the lock screws and tang a bit?

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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2024, 08:07:16 PM »
Is the barrel bent? No matter just call Jim.
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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2024, 12:21:59 AM »
That's a good looking rifle.
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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2024, 12:39:37 AM »
If it’s consistently shooting in a tight-ish group then I would guess your barrel needs to be straightened.

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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2024, 12:44:49 AM »
Give us a call on Tuesday.  Seems something isn’t right.  Sorry for the trouble.

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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2024, 02:45:15 AM »
Pushing the rear site to the right will cause the POI to move right. Pushing the front site to the left will also (or in addition) cause the POI to move to the right.

I'm sure Jim will stand behind his product and provide sound advice or replacement.

Yep... I always remember the acronym  FORS  (Front Opposite Rear Same) when adjusting sights.

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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2024, 04:28:53 PM »
I guess I missed that part about he already did adjust the sights to get it centered?  Happens a lot any more.  But for sure, Mr Kibler will stand by his product, or at least find the problem.

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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2024, 04:53:54 PM »
get someone else to try it and see if still shoots left

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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2024, 05:05:59 PM »
Bend the barrel.
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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2024, 07:19:52 PM »
To be out that far, the barrel must be bent, or the bore wanders inside the barrel by a lot, which is unlikely.
I had a GM barrel that was like that, crooked bore as it was centered, fore and aft, but could not be sighted in.
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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2024, 07:44:39 PM »
I don't like anything that goes far left.
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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2024, 07:49:49 PM »
I’m 100% sure Jim Kibler will make it right, and I’d not do anything else but work with him on it.
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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2024, 11:36:53 PM »
Curious if shooting technique has anything to do with it.  :-\

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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2024, 05:05:44 AM »
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Re: Woodsrunner shooting far left
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2024, 01:24:42 PM »
If it were mine Id remove barrel pins loosen all fasteners till just a little snug , then use my Lead Sled . at this point I would determine- Load or issue with barrel .Not to be snide sarcastic I think you should really have someone knowledgeable look at the rifle . Jim Kibler would be my first suggestion.
Thank you Boone , Glass with all the contemplate I read with todays (shooter's lightly taken as such) , you keep things simple .