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Offline Top Jaw

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Lifetime Production Leaders
« on: August 25, 2024, 03:41:03 PM »
On other sites and prior threads, I can recall some listed gun production numbers that were quite impressive from some vintage gun builders.  I seem to remember (maybe R Southgate, C Kemper, and probably others) with some big lifetime numbers, but don’t remember what they were.  Who were/are some of the leaders and numbers for lifetime gun building production that you have heard of?

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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2024, 05:24:08 PM »
Mike Brooks should be on the list for sure. Seems like he’s well over 300.
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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2024, 06:43:37 PM »
Mike is closer to 400 than 300 or so I read somewhere. Jud Brennan is over 180 Chuck Edwards is over 200 Don Bruton is way up there  so many that he probably dont know for sure. Ken Netting if I read right was around 600 but dont hold me to that as my recollect dont recollect so sharp anymore
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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2024, 07:18:21 PM »
Jack Garners shop has cranked out hundreds.
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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2024, 08:23:40 PM »
Maybe Marvin Kemper will chime in about his Dads “production” numbers?
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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2024, 08:43:34 PM »
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Jack Garners shop has cranked out hundreds.
As have Jackie Brown and Matt Avance, both while working for him and independently.
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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2024, 09:50:49 PM »
Quality, not quantity.

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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2024, 11:45:39 PM »
A lot of builders with high production numbers are top shelf. All that repetition leads to increased excellence.
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2024, 01:24:45 AM »
Quality, not quantity.

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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2024, 05:30:47 AM »
H. House once told me he figured he had made over 1000.
 Jim Klein told me he had made over a 1000 as well. I'm just a little dog when it comes to big numbers.
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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2024, 06:54:05 AM »
I would think the Caywood's both Charlie and Danny would qualify, although I have no numbers to quote. Caywood Gunmakers have been in business for a long time.
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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2024, 06:57:30 AM »
Mike Brooks should be on the list for sure. Seems like he’s well over 300.
I would have to agree with this... :)
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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2024, 12:31:56 PM »
My buddy just sent me a text that there was an old Muzzle Blast cover with 3 Cornel Kemper rifles pictured.  They were #1000, #2000, & #3000 !!!

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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2024, 02:12:28 AM »
I just received my 3rd Don Bruton rifle last week, a left hand maple stocked 54 cal flinter with a Bobby Hoyt coned barrel that Don said was #652.  He has been building rifles and Fowlers for six decades now and still hard at it.  But, as he says, he just builds what he wants to these days.

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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2024, 04:35:51 PM »
Does Kibler count in this survey? My own production is MAYBE 10 but I remember the last two and the very first one.Both first and last were 58 caliber and the last one was a flintlock.My shop really is not set up for wood working and now it seems to be closed until further notice.
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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2024, 07:24:30 PM »
Jack Garner's shop has probably turn out 1000's of rifles over the years. I have built somewhere around 200 which is not much compared to many others, but they have all been a labor of love. Hopefully I get to build a few more before going to the Big Shop in the sky.
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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2024, 01:05:59 AM »
John Bergmann of Tn. built his #777 for me Which is a wonderfully petite Tennessee Rife in 38 Cal. That is light and fits me perfectly. This was in the spring.
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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2024, 04:27:29 AM »
I think i got Brooks number 385….
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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2024, 04:34:08 PM »
I think i got Brooks number 385….
386 has been sitting in the corner for a year needing a couple coats of finish and the barrel browned. Can't seem to find the time to do it.
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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2024, 07:20:23 PM »
   Maybe we should clarify between individual gun makers an those that don't have a production shop ? There's a big difference in doing them by hand.
  Especially when you use a machine like a stock duplicator or CNC.
  I understand the technical difficulty programming a CNC machine to make the stock. So lets not go their. Besides a CNC can make a completed stock in less than an hour give or take. Especially with a multi tool head.
  So in my opinion. Which doesn't count. That's the big difference...

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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2024, 12:18:25 AM »
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Besides a CNC can make a completed stock in less than an hour give or take.
So could Jack Garner and others of the Corinth School of gunbuilding.  It's probably a little known fact that Jack worked for DGW way back making their precarves and continued upon leaving them as Jack's Stock Shop before segueing into TVM.
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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2024, 05:30:34 PM »
I don't know about Tip Curtis, he made a lot of guns over the years, probably less than Matt Advance or Jack Garner.

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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2024, 01:17:37 AM »
Does anybody know how many Hershal House made during his production yrs. I dont remember ever reading it anywhere
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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2024, 05:23:06 AM »
Visited with Neill Fields of Vernal, Utah about how many ML's he has built #442 on the bench.
He was with Green River Rifle works for awhile.

Did all inletting and stock work by hand. Not pre- carved  stocks.
 
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Re: Lifetime Production Leaders
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2024, 07:52:58 AM »
Hershel told me he thought he had made  about 275 rifles , that was in 2021. He said he mostly rifled the barrels until his shop burned .