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wire inlay on kibler fowler
« on: August 29, 2024, 10:50:03 PM »
 i was wondering if some  small amount of wire inlay would be appropriate on this piece?? any ideas. anyone? smartdog ?? thanks

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Re: wire inlay on kibler fowler
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2024, 11:27:14 PM »
Why not?
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Re: wire inlay on kibler fowler
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2024, 12:43:01 AM »
i was wondering if some  small amount of wire inlay would be appropriate on this piece?? any ideas. anyone? smartdog ?? thanks
Historically correct?  Yes, very appropriate but not on this grade of gun, but that probably wouldn't stop me from doing it if I had the inspiration.. I'd look to originals for design. smartdog will probably post some nice examples. In reality, wire inlay was done on only high end examples, Kibler's gun is an export grade gun.
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Re: wire inlay on kibler fowler
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2024, 12:54:16 AM »
Hi 2 Shots,
Wire would be fine.  If you just want the decoration to please your eye do it they way you want.  If you want it to be historically consistent, then a little more thought is needed. The Brits rarely ever seemed to add wire in a restrained way.  They usually did it to profusion or not at all.   One thing about wire inlay, 2 Shots, is it does not have much mass and can get lost easily on the stock and become a game of "Where's Waldo".  Hence piling it on in a defined space gives it mass and presence. Anyway, Jim Kibler's fowler represents a good quality gun made for export.  As such, few would have any wire inlay but there are almost certainly exceptions. If you decide to inlay wire, I urge you to pick a spot on the stock like the upper corner of the butt stock against the heel of the butt plate or around the barrel tang carving, and lay it on with some density.  That will make a strong visual impact.

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Re: wire inlay on kibler fowler
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2024, 02:04:09 AM »
Start in a small corner,,,
or if you want to get carried away,

       
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Re: wire inlay on kibler fowler
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2024, 03:55:18 AM »
 thanks all for responding.  around the tang shell is where i was thinking  of going with it . think i will hold off.  thanks again. mike
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Re: wire inlay on kibler fowler
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2024, 05:15:47 PM »
Start in a small corner,,,
or if you want to get carried away,

       

JTR,

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Re: wire inlay on kibler fowler
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2024, 11:14:39 PM »
Here is a beautiful example by Griffin sold last week. Emulating this work would be difficult to say the least.



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Re: wire inlay on kibler fowler
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2024, 01:51:03 AM »
Good thing that you cant buy anything from RI and were not tempted!!!!

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Re: wire inlay on kibler fowler
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2024, 02:37:35 AM »
According to Jims video it's a mid quality piece made for export so inlays wouldn't be appropriate but who's to say what happened to it when it got to the colonies.

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Re: wire inlay on kibler fowler
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2024, 04:27:03 PM »
According to Jims video it's a mid quality piece made for export so inlays wouldn't be appropriate but who's to say what happened to it when it got to the colonies.
No one in the colonies did that level of work.
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Re: wire inlay on kibler fowler
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2024, 08:52:57 PM »
Did you do all the incising then insert the silver, or did you insert as you finished each line?

I have  a goodly amount of silver ribbon, and have done a few very small projects - the silver ribbon does well if I scrape each side with a file.
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