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Offline Hudnut

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2024, 02:30:48 PM »
What is the definition of jacked up ???

Got in trouble with the powers that be.

Offline Hudnut

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2024, 02:34:11 PM »
So, that means if you have an antique pistol barrel you could use all new parts except the barrel and it would be an antique?

That what was I was told, but reading through this thread, who knows?

That is the problem.  Who knows?  The current government has a hate on for firearms and firearm owners.
There is no clear legal definition. 

Offline Bob Roller

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2024, 05:30:52 PM »
IF I were going to send a gun barrel thru the mail to a hostile to guns country I'd label it a steel tube,UPS picked up barrels at Bill Large's shop and they went to Germany with no problem.I have sent locks to Canada and labeled them as locks but no mention of any kind of a gun and they got to the customer.Germany was never a problem and I used German on the customs papers.One geezer in our post office said "I can't read any of that" and I told him the man in Mayen had no trouble at all with it.
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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2024, 09:03:35 PM »
OP, A lot of the information in your documents has to do with registration of firearms which is no longer valid.  Only handguns require registration in Canada now.
I have been buying muzzleloading barrels from the USA since 1971, and have always referred to them as "machined steel tubing".  I have never had an issue with Canada Customs or Canadian Border Services, and have received my orders in due course.  I always have them shipped by USPS and Canada Post.
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Offline Hudnut

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2024, 01:16:26 AM »
Definitely USPS to Canada Post.  No brokerage fees.  Taxes and the tax collection fee can be paid online when the parcel clears.  Delivery right to your door.

Offline Daryl

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2024, 05:22:48 AM »
If you allow the company to use UPS you can expect to pay up to 30% of the declared value as "brokerage fees". 
Don't do this. USPC gets changed to Canada Post at the border and a customs fee of $5.00 to $10.00 is charged.
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Offline Jakob

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2024, 06:38:31 AM »
Or, if you happen to live close enough to a customs office, you can self clear a UPS package and make them mighty mad :D.

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2024, 05:57:47 PM »
Just to follow up. I received my barrels from Jason. The second time it was sent with an updated description and the Canadian paperwork included in the customs declaration.

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2024, 08:28:53 PM »
At the risk of offending, or breaking ALR rules, let me say this...
In general, law enforcement here in Canada has no idea what is or is not "the Law" regarding transportation or safe storage.  If you are stopped for whatever reason in your vehicle, and have firearms on board (hunting, going to the range, etc) you are in for a long drawn out argument and finally a confiscation of your stuff, because the peace officer doesn't know the Law.  To that end, I have a plasticized copy of the relevant rules and law, issued by the Chief Firearms Officers of British Columbia, in the seat pocket behind the driver's seat, so I can show them that I am in compliance.  I recommend all you BCers do the same.
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Offline Daryl

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2024, 09:49:36 PM »
Yeah - I have misplaced mine. One of these days, I'll get yours and make a copy at Staples, Taylor.
Daryl

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Offline Pukka Bundook

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2024, 06:18:00 PM »
Re. recent law changes up here;

At a recent Canadian auction, modern made flintlock rifles were sold under antique status quite rightfully,
But, a barrel designed to be made into a muzzle loader, threaded for a breechplug or not, required a PAL. (License)

So, a barrel that requires a license  could be purchased, and made into a gun that requires no license!

Eh??? as they say up here!

Offline Daryl

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2024, 06:33:17 PM »
Makes perfect sense to a bureaucrat who knows nothing about guns, even in general.
Last rifle I bought, a suppository rifle, was delivered by an East Indian fellow who just had me sign, with my finger tip, a scribble on an I-Pad for the rifle
when delivered to my door. Most likely he didn't have a P.A.L., which he would have had to possess to be in possession of that rifle, nor did he ask if I was
in possession of one, which is required by the criminal code to transfer the firearm to me.
Same goes for all the air rifles I own, as all are classified as firearms, yet delivered by regular parcel-post. Some just left on my door step, others asked for
signatures, never asking for a license.
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Offline Pukka Bundook

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2024, 05:29:03 PM »
Am afraid I like logic, but see less and less as time goes on.

Offline AZshot

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2024, 07:21:29 PM »
I don't think there is any meaningful answer.
Saying that a pistol barrel is a pistol is silly.  Breeched or unbreeched?  If unbreeched, threaded for a plug?  These folks could put their time to better use, perhaps answering the question of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.  A barrel for a modern pistol isn't a pistol, it is just a barrel.  Although you need a PAL to get one now.
If I were setting up a pistol using original parts, I think I would err on the side of caution and use an antique barrel.
Darn right.  They're trying to apply letter of the law, without understanding the intent of the law.  Ehers posts their laws that flintlocks are considered "non-firearms" like in the USA.  So just package a loose flint when you ship the barrels, along with their own laws with highlights, as shown above.

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2024, 09:11:32 PM »
I don't think there is any meaningful answer.
Saying that a pistol barrel is a pistol is silly.  Breeched or unbreeched?  If unbreeched, threaded for a plug?  These folks could put their time to better use, perhaps answering the question of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.  A barrel for a modern pistol isn't a pistol, it is just a barrel.  Although you need a PAL to get one now.
If I were setting up a pistol using original parts, I think I would err on the side of caution and use an antique barrel.
Darn right.  They're trying to apply letter of the law, without understanding the intent of the law.  Ehers posts their laws that flintlocks are considered "non-firearms" like in the USA.  So just package a loose flint when you ship the barrels, along with their own laws with highlights, as shown above.

Not quite correct. Flintlock *pistols* are still firearms. The exemption only applies to long guns.

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2024, 10:42:42 PM »
Then put a rifle sized flint in with the barrel?  That should cover it.  Makes as much sense as the "where is the receiver...?" hunt goat rope. 

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2024, 12:19:05 AM »
Would need to be an 18.5"+ long barrel for that to work.

Offline Daryl

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2024, 02:14:27 AM »
just for an example, the local POLICE firearms officer called an 1868 Sharps action, a pistol & said I had to register it.LOL
He was the "firearms expert" of the local RCMP detachment.
Daryl

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Offline Hudnut

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2024, 05:14:13 AM »
I don't think there is any meaningful answer.
Saying that a pistol barrel is a pistol is silly.  Breeched or unbreeched?  If unbreeched, threaded for a plug?  These folks could put their time to better use, perhaps answering the question of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.  A barrel for a modern pistol isn't a pistol, it is just a barrel.  Although you need a PAL to get one now.
If I were setting up a pistol using original parts, I think I would err on the side of caution and use an antique barrel.
Darn right.  They're trying to apply letter of the law, without understanding the intent of the law.  Ehers posts their laws that flintlocks are considered "non-firearms" like in the USA.  So just package a loose flint when you ship the barrels, along with their own laws with highlights, as shown above.

Not quite correct. Flintlock *pistols* are still firearms. The exemption only applies to long guns.

All guns are firearms.  Some are deemed or proscribed to be antique, and are exempt from licensing, etc.
No pistol made after 1897 has antique status.  Does a pistol assembled with pre-1898 metal parts, restocked, have antique status?  Darned if I know.
A post 1897 longarm with a touch hole is antique; a caplock is not antique exempt. 

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2024, 06:39:16 PM »
Wanting to go "tour" Canada before I depart this life, and I want to go to Halifax, Nova Scotia to visit a wildlife rescue place.

I plan to leave anything that resembles a firearm, plus my slingshot and rubber-band gun, at home.  Have no interest in discovering the delights of a Canadien prison, even if the guards are as unutterably polite like most other Canadians.
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Offline Daryl

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Re: Need some advise, shipping barrels from US to Canada
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2024, 08:28:58 PM »
Craig, you are most certainly welcome. The Eastern Provinces are indeed a splendid visit/tour. My wife and I did that in 2018 and have made plans to "do" Newfoundland in June next "spring".
For that, I have purchased new rain gear. At that time of year, the weather is bound to be wet.
Daryl

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