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Offline maudite

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Breechplug
« on: September 22, 2024, 07:03:12 AM »
Was considering on by this barrel and am wondering if the breechplug for this barrel is ok




Offline Steeltrap

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Re: Breechplug
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2024, 03:31:15 PM »
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I'll let more experienced individuals respond.

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Re: Breechplug
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2024, 05:08:06 PM »
  would be  hard to keep clean it seems. was this flint or cap?

Offline Hungry Horse

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Re: Breechplug
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2024, 05:37:35 PM »
 That looks like a CVA lash up. The only way I would use it is to cut an inch off the breech and give it a traditional breech instead of CVA’s version. Just my opinion.

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Offline Bob Roller

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Re: Breechplug
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2024, 06:03:59 PM »
HH is RIGHT.Have it rebreeched.These production short curs can be dangerous to eyes AND life.Too many things in muzzle loaders that started at the bottom and went down and this is a good example.
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Re: Breechplug
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2024, 06:25:56 PM »
The counter bored breech plug technique is an old one used historically many times usually associated with European guns. However if done properly it is a very safe and strong breeching method! One that I employ with every breech that I make. Hugh Toenjes
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Offline B.Habermehl

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Re: Breechplug
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2024, 06:26:45 PM »
If the interior of the barrel is clean and rust free, I might consider getting it rebreeched properly. That would involve shortening the barrel by a inch or a bit less. Other things to consider where’s the sight dovetails? Will the rear sight wind up too close to the breech? You might be investing more this and money than it will be worth in the end. My guess the barrel is from a Spanish import. And usually not highly esteemed. BJH
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Offline Steeltrap

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Re: Breechplug
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2024, 06:50:05 PM »
If you haven't purchased it yet, don't. If the price is say $150 you have already spent half that on a quality new barrel.

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Offline maudite

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Re: Breechplug
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2024, 07:31:11 PM »
Thanks for the info ,I m going to pass on the barrel
« Last Edit: September 22, 2024, 11:43:20 PM by maudite »

Offline Scota4570

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Re: Breechplug
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2024, 09:42:51 PM »
Whether it is good or bad I can not say. 

However, if you planned on using a precarve stock it will not work.  Those are made to use a touch hole that is further foreword. 

Fouling trap?  I have noticed that my half-inch  length plug with a liner also accumulate lots of fouling over a day a the range.  Cleaning the nooks and crannies is not really possible. 

 I have been meaning to make a long tube that can be attached to my wash sink faucet.  High pressure water definitely cleans all of that off the breech face. 

I am not sure that crud matters or not.  I do not get rust back in the breech section regardless.   It does cause misfires for me. 
« Last Edit: September 24, 2024, 05:34:16 PM by Scota4570 »

Offline Leatherbark

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Re: Breechplug
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2024, 03:44:47 PM »
I have run into this type of boo-boo before.  Because of the distance relationship between the tang, touch-hole and lock placement, installing another breech plug with the touch hole farther forward causes more modifications to be made.  That hole has to be exactly where it is or a bunch of changes will have to be made.

 I have in the past had to increase the thread depth of the breech to about 1-1/2 inches and made a new breech plug from a 5/8 x18 grade 8 bolt and sawed and filed a new breech hook or weld on the original tang.  Then drill a communication hole down the center of the breech plug and a new drum/touch hole through the existing one to intersect.  Sort of a homemade chambered breech but much safer and easier to clean.  A lot of hand work though, but all the dimensions are unaltered.  The original builder on this rifle didn't position the barrel far enough to the rear.  That is the way I do it when using a drum on a 13/16ths 45 barrel or a 7/8ths inch 50 caliber barrel. I want full engagement of the drum threads on a thin wall barrel and the only way short of a patent breech is to make a long breech plug with a firing chamber.

Bob

« Last Edit: September 24, 2024, 10:51:53 PM by Leatherbark »