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Offline Scota4570

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Different set trigger idea, outside picture link added.
« on: September 23, 2024, 08:13:57 PM »
Different to me anyway.  I do not like single set triggers.  I had an accidental discharge at the last pistol shoot with one. 

For pistols, having the firing trigger at the rear is a must.  I was doodling and came up with the attached.  The rear trigger fires set or unset.  The front trigger pushes forward to set it.  This seems very simple to me.    Am I missing something?  I must me re-discovering the idea. 



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Offline Scota4570

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Re: Different set trigger idea
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Offline rich pierce

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Re: Different set trigger idea, outside picture link added.
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2024, 11:40:07 PM »
So you’d push the front trigger forward to set it, right? I like it!
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Re: Different set trigger idea, outside picture link added.
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2024, 11:43:42 PM »
Yes, that seems safer and easier to make.  IT also does not require setting it to come to full cock.  How high the kicker moves would have to be planned to prevent smacking the front of you trigger finger. 

Offline Daryl

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Re: Different set trigger idea, outside picture link added.
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2024, 12:01:44 AM »
Looks like a good idea.
Daryl

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Offline Bob Roller

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Re: Different set trigger idea, outside picture link added.
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2024, 12:20:34 AM »
I looked at it and it is very close to a prototype I made a long time ago.
Bob Roller

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Re: Different set trigger idea, outside picture link added.
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2024, 01:30:28 AM »
Would the trigger have to be set in order to bring the hammer to half cock?

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Re: Different set trigger idea, outside picture link added.
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2024, 03:32:34 PM »
The lock and trigger will have to be "tuned"to work together and a lock with a two position tumbler and a fly should be used.The release bar on the spring driven trigger should have no contact with the sear other than at the moment of contact.The deep curve on that front trigger can be altered to make it easier to set.
Bob Roller 

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Re: Different set trigger idea, outside picture link added.
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2024, 11:43:23 PM »
Would the trigger have to be set in order to bring the hammer to half cock?

Kevin

No, it is just a different layout of a regular double set trigger. 

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Re: Different set trigger idea, outside picture link added.
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2024, 07:22:29 PM »
Let’s keep discussion of modern cartridge guns in the personal message arena. That way you can help but not detract from our focus.
Thanks.
Andover, Vermont

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Re: Different set trigger idea, outside picture link added.
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2024, 04:35:20 PM »
There is a Willam Buckele rifle with this trigger arrangement. You set the main rear trigger by pushing the front trigger forward. It took me a moment to understand what I was looking at. There was no room to get your finger between the front trigger and the trigger guard bow.
Dave Blaisdell

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Re: Different set trigger idea, outside picture link added.
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2024, 05:14:54 PM »
Yes, that seems safer and easier to make.  IT also does not require setting it to come to full cock.  How high the kicker moves would have to be planned to prevent smacking the front of you trigger finger.

Get rid of that steep curve in the front trigger,flatten it a bit and checker the lower part.The strike on the sear arm can be regulated with the screw that holds it to the bar.
Bob Roller

Offline Pete G.

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Re: Different set trigger idea, outside picture link added.
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2024, 09:42:00 PM »
There is a Willam Buckele rifle with this trigger arrangement. You set the main rear trigger by pushing the front trigger forward. It took me a moment to understand what I was looking at. There was no room to get your finger between the front trigger and the trigger guard bow.
I thought I had seen that somewhere but I couldn’t remember.

Offline tim crowe

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Re: Different set trigger idea, outside picture link added.
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2024, 07:12:11 PM »
Steve " Bookie" Bookout had an original and had made a copy of the one in the drawing. Bookie told me he thought , it would work well for caring the rifle and push forward with your thumb to cock and then fire with your index finger.
As to where he got the original from, I have no idea, it used to be on his bench , I haven't seen it in years.

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Re: Different set trigger idea, outside picture link added.
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2024, 07:17:29 AM »
Farrow and Sharps used similar concepts on rifles that followed the period of interest for this forum. Winchester also used their ccdst on the 1885 which would solve the wide spacing issue on a pistol. Im sure there are analogs from the longrifle era too.