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Offline canadianml1

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Old Container of Tru-oil
« on: November 03, 2024, 08:07:02 PM »
I have an old container of Tru-oil that must be three years old. The plastic container has collapsed by about 20% to 30 % of its original volume. Is it still useable? What thinner/turps/mineral sprits can be used to rejuvinate it?

Thanks for any comments.




Offline Eric Kettenburg

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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2024, 08:10:54 PM »
Well first of all, have you opened it and looked inside?
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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2024, 08:29:53 PM »
I’d just try it on a scrap piece. If it’s too thick I’d sparingly add turpentine till it’s more the viscosity of maple syrup than honey and test again.
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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2024, 09:57:31 PM »
I’d toss it and buy a fresh bottle, by the time I get to the finish I have too much effort in the process to try and save $7 or so.
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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2024, 10:02:46 PM »
Several years ago I opened a glass bottle of Tru-Oil that was part of a stock refinish kit my wife's son had bought sometime back in the 90's. The lid was a bit stubborn, bottle still sealed, used it, no problems. It didn't appear to have thickened up. I've used T-O in the past and it worked in and finished just as well as a newly purchased one.

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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2024, 08:00:17 AM »
You can try and add some mineral spirits to thin it out, Once I open a bottle, I always store it upside down so that any crust that forms does not contaminate the usable portion.
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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2024, 03:47:48 PM »
It was always my opinion that a new stock was worth a new bottle of finish, especially with all the money and time invested in the new stock.

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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2024, 07:24:18 PM »
The only way to know if the stuff is any good is to try it on a scrap piece of wood. Why not try it before you ask this question - no one else could answer it better than you. ::)
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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2024, 09:18:20 PM »
just soaked a sling in about 5 yr old neatsfoot oil and every thing is ok for me

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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2024, 11:57:40 PM »
I have used older true oil thinned with mineral spirits in a plastic cup without an issue.  But this was for smaller projects and not a gun stock I had spent lots and lots of hours on. I agree with the wisdom of using a new bottle for that purpose. I also store mine upside down.

The sucking in of the sides over time is fairly common.  Sometimes the biggest challenge can be getting the crusted over lid off.  I’ve often had to snug the plastic bottle up in a vice, while pressing down on the lid, and turning it with a pair of slip joint or channel lock pliers to remove the lid.  It has a safety lid on it that crusts up pretty easily.  A little solvent or turpentine should return TO’s consistency if slightly thick.  But as stated, I do this in small batches poured into a clear plastic cup from the bottle, and mix with a few drops of solvent at a time, which is easier to get what you want - rather than trying to pour something directly into the brown TO bottle. 

TO is easy to use and dries fairly quick.  As with almost all finishes, several thin coats are better than one or two thicker ones.  But it can be overly glossy for my tastes, no matter how it’s applied.  And I normally find that I have to cut it back with steel wool or a scotch bright pad.
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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2024, 05:15:18 PM »
FWIW, I never got along with tru-oil.

Not half as forgiving as linseed and turpentine.

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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2024, 10:19:47 PM »
Been using True Oil since the early 1970's.  For me, it's always worked just fine for me and as long as it's liquid
it's most likely just fine. Thinning it if thick is a good idea.
I've also used Linspeed and Spar Varnish. I preferred the True Oil.
Lightly rubbing with 0000 wool, pumice or rotten stone will dull the finish to a nice matted surface.
I've come to prefer pumice or rotten stone.
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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2024, 05:54:53 PM »
Daryl,
The old London finish called for rubbing the oiled stock hard, with a felt pad attached to a wooden backer.
The felt wet, and liberally covered in pumice powder.  This brought a beautiful deep sheen to an oiled stock.
(oiled with artist' quality boiled linseed, cut with a quarter pure turpentine, applied hand hot liberally for a start)

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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2024, 06:38:37 PM »
Just finished reading about rubbing HARD and my right shoulder started hurting,REALLY.Now the Hempvana gets rubbed. >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2024, 03:58:31 AM »
If it doesnt look right, dump it and buy a new bottle.

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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2024, 02:11:02 PM »
I just bought a bottle and defeated the child lock cap by band sawing delicately to remove the outer layer.  This because I notice in my last two purchases the child lock can prevent a seal and hasten its gel process and dumping it into an empty small paint can from Ace Hardware doesn't help either.

IN any case, agonizing over whether or not it will last isn't worth it because it is easier to buy another container full. I think...

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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2024, 04:01:11 PM »
Just this week I found an old glass botte of Tru Oil I forgot I had while looking for a finish for some turnscrew handles.  Almost empty and heavily crusted, there was perhaps 1/2" of somewhat thickened liquid under the thick crust.  Punched a hole in the crust, added a little turps, shook it up and let it sit for a day.  Worked just fine.  There is also a new bottle of Tru Oil sitting in the finish cabinet, but waste not - want not.

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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2024, 05:10:36 PM »
Speaking of mixing Tru Oil.  There was a recipe posted somewhere for a stock finish using equal parts Tru Oil, boiled linseed oil, and turpentine.  Tried it on some powder horn bases.  Obviously a thinner consistency than straight TO.  Showed promise, with a nice satiny glow (not shiny) on what I was using it for.   Have yet to apply it on something big like a rifle. 
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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2024, 02:03:25 AM »
  JAPAN DRYERS!!  The best mineral spirits thinner used for any oil based varnish, paint or True Oil. or any other oil based stock finish!!  You can get it at any paint store or Home Depo!! The stuff has been around for about 100 yrs.!! HT.
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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2024, 05:04:55 PM »
Interesting.  To my knowledge, Japan Dryer is typically used at a very small percentage by volume.  Are you using it as a straight thinner, at about what percentage and how quickly does the finish gel or set up?

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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2024, 12:18:52 AM »
Hey Bluenoser:  I use Japan Dryers to thin almost any commercial stock finish even if it is just a sealer.  I cut the original solution with about 50% Dryers.  It cuts the drying time in half usually. Also it allows you to do more coats of finish with out a gummy and thick build up!  HT.
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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2024, 03:50:15 AM »
Thanks Hugh.
It's always nice to learn something new and will give it a try.  I have been using Japan Dryer for a long time, but only in small doses.  Never thought it could be used in such high percentage.

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Re: Old Container of Tru-oil
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2024, 09:26:14 PM »
Thanks to all!!!!

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