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Offline k gahagan

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Re: Shop is humming with British guns
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2025, 03:34:40 AM »
You got the right person on the job, looks great.

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Re: Shop is humming with British guns
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2025, 04:18:22 AM »
Hi Ken.
Yes, Maria is doing very well as long as I can keep her focused on the work rather than the other distractions happening in her life.  I want to throw away her mobile phone. At times, it would give me great pleasure to hit it with a 5 lb sledge. To do the checkering, I made her turn off her phone and ignore it.  That helped a great deal. I did not have anyone to teach me how to do this work or cast and sculpt high end mounts and engrave.  She is benefiting from my fearlessness learning to do this work and I am teaching her to become fearless as well.


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Re: Shop is humming with British guns
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2025, 06:55:06 AM »
  She is benefiting from my fearlessness learning to do this work and I am teaching her to become fearless as well.

For me, this is the hardest thing. I'm procrastinating for days about starting carving a new section, because I don't want to mess it up. And then I go 'screw it', get going and it's fine....until I get to the next part and it all starts over.
Granted, I do think it has saved me from some bigger mistakes, as I've re-evaluated and changed designs along the way, but where I'm at now, I should really just go and finish it.

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Re: Shop is humming with British guns
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2025, 07:14:18 AM »
Top of the line checkering! Can’t recall if there will be any embellishments in the small squares. It will look great when the finish goes on.
Cheers Richard

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Re: Shop is humming with British guns
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2025, 07:31:06 AM »
Dave,
Its the same as ploughing a field with hills and holes in it. More surface area on the concave bits so lines don't look straight!

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Re: Shop is humming with British guns
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2025, 03:22:09 PM »
Hi and thanks for looking folks!

Jakob, that is not really procrastinating.  You probably are thinking and planning and then when you do the job it comes out great. I am the same way.  I control my anxiety about doing a challenging job by thinking and planning it out.  That is why I am not particularly fast.  I am not Mike Brooks or some of the other great makers who can plough through the work much faster. 

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Re: Shop is humming with British guns
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2025, 01:48:23 AM »
Hi, and thank you all for showing interest and encouraging Maria.  She had a rough year.  It was made worse because just as she was asked to be a captain on the Siena equestrian team, she dismounted a horse and in the process tore her medial collateral ligament and partially tore her ACL in her left knee.  She is on crutches pending surgery this week.  She won't be riding for a while.  She still can work in the shop so she is not cut off from everything she loves to do.  She is back at school but will be back with me in April for a few days. 

I got tired of fixing other people's messed up Brown Bess reproduction locks so I went back to finishing my English sporting rifle. I decided to start making the dots in the wrist checkering.  I am hoping to make this a 2-step process where I previously used a 3-step process.  In the past, I would mark each dot accurately with an awl, punch it deeper with a pin punch, and then remove wood from the hole with a tiny twist drill. If the hole is just punched there is risk that when filled with finish it will swell and partially disappear. The drill bit removes the compressed wood eliminating that problem.  This time around, I am going to see if that wood really needs to go, so I am just marking the holes with an awl and then punching them.  If that is not sufficient, I can always go back with a No. 1 twist drill and remove the wood.

Professional gun stock checkerers wait until the stock has finish on it and the coats cured hard before checkering.  In our case, we checker the large early English style diamonds before finish is applied because they are not fragile and that allows us to fix mistakes.  However, making the dots is a different story.  We checker the stock, then apply stain and finish building up several coats. We let them dry and cure and then go back and make the holes.  Like chipping away the diamond points on modern checkering, punching the holes risks chipping away a quadrant. Therefore, having them strengthened and hardened by cured finish is desirable. So after putting on coats of finish, I go back and clean up the checkering removing any finish clogging the main lines. I use my checkering file for this.
         




I am very careful doing this as the wood with finish mixed in clogs the file quickly and you have to clean it often to avoid having it slip out of the line.  Next I use the 60 degree Gunline single line cutter to lightly clean up the minor lines. 



Once that is done, I brush the checkering vigorously with a stiff tooth brush which burnishes the grooves. Then I make the dots.  First, I located them accurately in the middle of each quadrant using a sharp awl.




Then I use a flat ended punch made from a pin punch to make the hole larger.  I tap the punch with a small ball peen hammer and count 4 strikes each time to keep the dots of equal size.
 







Hopefully, that does it.  If the holes swell and fill up with more finish, I will go back and twiddle a #1 wire drill in each hole to remove the wood. 

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Re: Shop is humming with British guns
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2025, 05:08:29 AM »
Thanks for the tutorial Dave, especially how you make the dots…a thought hit me when I was reading this about using a pen type soldering iron with the ‘iron’ filed to a point like you have on the awl  and using it to burn a small hole. The ‘burn’ would have a nice contrast to the surrounding wood I think. Sorry to hear about Maria’s accident, please wish her well for me.
Thanks Richard

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Re: Shop is humming with British guns
« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2025, 05:37:01 AM »
Hi and thanks for looking folks!

Jakob, that is not really procrastinating.  You probably are thinking and planning and then when you do the job it comes out great. I am the same way.  I control my anxiety about doing a challenging job by thinking and planning it out.  That is why I am not particularly fast.  I am not Mike Brooks or some of the other great makers who can plough through the work much faster. 

dave

Thanks Dave. This was enough to get me going on the last main piece on butt stock. So far, so good. (Except my thumb is now numb, as the wood there is dense!)