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Offline Jim Kibler

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2025, 06:00:41 PM »
I expect this to be available in the first quarter of 2026.

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2025, 06:25:54 PM »
An AMAZING "kit" from an AMAZING family business. BRAVO!!  ;D
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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2025, 07:20:27 PM »
My son and I were talking about the Hawken that Kibler has in the works, and we agreed that the Hawken will probably sell like hotcakes, but it would be nice if he made a pistol kit.  I won't buy the Hawken kit, but I will buy at least one pistol kit. 

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2025, 09:21:32 PM »
Just ordered my SMR two weeks ago and dang, here goes next year’s gun budget.

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2025, 09:23:23 PM »
Is it a standing breach?

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2025, 09:27:23 PM »
Is it a standing breach?

Thank you all so much for the encouragement.

No, it's not a standing breech.

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #31 on: May 05, 2025, 03:27:20 AM »
I opened this hoping to see a 1756 LLP Bess. Now I’m pouting 😠      😆
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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #32 on: May 05, 2025, 04:00:34 AM »
It looks great, I like the original you based it on as well. I know a lot of people have been wanting a kibler pistol including me.

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #33 on: May 05, 2025, 04:25:41 AM »
It looks great, and I can't even complain that it isn't left handed 😂. This will eliminate the problems with trying to hold a pistol stock in a vise. I hope you offer it in both brass mounts and steel. Both ways would be awesome and maybe some of us would purchase both. . Thanks for this.

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #34 on: May 05, 2025, 06:45:28 AM »
Outstanding Jim. I will order two of these to make a set of dueling pistols. What will be the barrel length and available calibers?

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #35 on: May 05, 2025, 04:46:00 PM »
Missed it the first few times of the 3rd pic….disappearing tang!!!!

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« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2025, 05:01:18 PM »
So far that looks very nice. Interested in what barrels and twist rate you will be using.

They will be some fast twist appropriate for pistols.  Should go up to .54 caliber.

Please, please make offer them up to 58cal. Been so waiting for a Colonial companion for my 58 Colonial. That looks like a fantastic pistol you have shaped out. Thank you, really looking forward to this piece :D

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2025, 07:03:09 PM »
I opened this hoping to see a 1756 LLP Bess. Now I’m pouting 😠      😆

We will never give up hope for a Kibler Long Land Pattern 🙏 I would go for the 1742 Pattern to snag the most history on both continents (and perhaps India as well, my history there is a little murky). Plus, it calls for a wooden ramrod. I can't imagine how much fun people would have modifying a kit to represent different units, time periods, retrofitted/updated parts (like an iron ramrod), even mocking it up to resemble different patterns.
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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2025, 07:39:35 PM »
I opened this hoping to see a 1756 LLP Bess. Now I’m pouting 😠      😆

We will never give up hope for a Kibler Long Land Pattern 🙏 I would go for the 1742 Pattern to snag the most history on both continents (and perhaps India as well, my history there is a little murky). Plus, it calls for a wooden ramrod. I can't imagine how much fun people would have modifying a kit to represent different units, time periods, retrofitted/updated parts (like an iron ramrod), even mocking it up to resemble different patterns.

I would like to do a kit.  If anyone has a really great original example that I can, buy, borrow, rent etc. let me know.  If someone can help facilitate this, the kit will certainly happen sooner!

Jim

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2025, 09:05:54 PM »
Any ballpark estimate on pistol kit price relative to the rifle kits?

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #40 on: May 05, 2025, 10:05:06 PM »
Looks like a great accessory to my full stock Hawken, a follow up shot might be needed to take down a bear!
how soon will these be available?

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« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2025, 01:18:15 AM »
Any ballpark estimate on pistol kit price relative to the rifle kits?

I'm not speaking for Jim, but the Clay Smith American Pistol Kit is $800. I'm sure Jim will be competitive with his prices, but I would tend to think Jim's pistol will require less work for a great end product.

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2025, 07:15:56 AM »
That pistol is just a dandy, Jim!  Nice.



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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #43 on: May 06, 2025, 05:08:41 PM »
Jim, there is a Robert Wogdon Dueling Pistol for sale on gunbroker right now that is very similar to what you based your pistol off of in profile and grip shape ect.. I could be wrong but it appears iron mounted but might be silver or some other tarnished white metal hard to tell. On further search of wogdon I found another set with flat sided grips for sale that stated they were iron mounted too. It’s English built vs colonial built I know. Anyways I like the fact that you base your guns on original work and being able to look at originals with the same attributes is really nice to me.
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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #44 on: May 06, 2025, 05:30:45 PM »
Jim, there is a Robert Wogdon Dueling Pistol for sale on gunbroker right now that is very similar to what you based your pistol off of in profile and grip shape ect.. I could be wrong but it appears iron mounted but might be silver or some other tarnished white metal hard to tell. It’s English built vs colonial built I know. Anyways I like the fact that you base your guns on original work and being able to look at originals with the same attributes is really nice to me.

Do you have a link by chance?  Thanks!

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2025, 05:34:17 PM »
Jim, I sent you a message with the links.

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« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2025, 09:15:07 PM »
Looks great, I will buy one for sure.

Question, would moving the rear sight to the tang be possible?  The longer sight radius is an advantage.  It could be integral to the tang.  That makes the tang stronger than cutting a dovetail.  The CNC does not care?  Adjustments can be done by filing and drifting the front sight. 

In my research I see english pistols of the time frame represented have it back there. 

The kit will have a plain trigger, I hope?  I'm not a fan of single set triggers. 

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2025, 09:20:42 PM »
Looks great, I will buy one for sure.

Question, would moving the rear sight to the tang be possible?  The longer sight radius is an advantage.  It could be integral to the tang.  That makes the tang stronger than cutting a dovetail.  The CNC does not care?  Adjustments can be done by filing and drifting the front sight. 

In my research I see english pistols of the time frame represented have it back there. 

The kit will have a plain trigger, I hope?  I'm not a fan of single set triggers.

Yeah, I could move it.  If further back, I would probably make it a little smaller, at least in length.  Thanks for the good suggestion.

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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #48 on: May 06, 2025, 10:17:07 PM »
I opened this hoping to see a 1756 LLP Bess. Now I’m pouting 😠      😆

We will never give up hope for a Kibler Long Land Pattern 🙏 I would go for the 1742 Pattern to snag the most history on both continents (and perhaps India as well, my history there is a little murky). Plus, it calls for a wooden ramrod. I can't imagine how much fun people would have modifying a kit to represent different units, time periods, retrofitted/updated parts (like an iron ramrod), even mocking it up to resemble different patterns.

I would like to do a kit.  If anyone has a really great original example that I can, buy, borrow, rent etc. let me know.  If someone can help facilitate this, the kit will certainly happen sooner!

Jim

Good to know! I may have to keep an eye out online. I was just watching Dave Person's presentation on the history and techniques to accurately recreate the Bess and he had some great ideas. I bet Colonial Williamsburg or Mr. Person would be willing to lend a hand regarding originals.

https://youtu.be/a3l8ISmur54?si=VFhz6T5jqMRkM_hN
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Re: Another upcoming kit
« Reply #49 on: May 07, 2025, 01:13:59 AM »
The tang...I see a simple flint tang in Jim's photos, and in the picture of the originals.
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