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Offline Sonoran Longrifle

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resoling a frizzen
« on: May 11, 2025, 01:09:49 AM »
I want to use a suitable saw blade. Any suggestions of which one to get?
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Offline rich pierce

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Re: resoling a frizzen
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2025, 01:14:31 AM »
I want to use a suitable saw blade. Any suggestions of which one to get?

I use handsaw blades. Old fashioned carpenter’s tools. Easily found in junk shops or Facebook Marketplace or Craig’s List. If yiu strike out locally I can send you a piece.
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Re: resoling a frizzen
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2025, 01:23:05 AM »
Hi

Rich is right.  My favorite steel for soling batteries is from old heavy duty meat band saws.  They are very tough because they have to saw through bone which is tougher than wood.

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Offline Mattox Forge

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Re: resoling a frizzen
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2025, 01:55:25 AM »
What kind of solder do you use?

Mike

Offline Pukka Bundook

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Re: resoling a frizzen
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2025, 02:39:12 PM »
Mike,
I had a good friend in England who was international musket champion a good few years, taking Gold, and he used Araldite epoxy on his 'Besses, and it didn't seem to shake loose.
He used old hand saw blades.

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Re: resoling a frizzen
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2025, 02:51:23 PM »
What kind of solder do you use?

Mike

Mike,
I used low temp silver solder like Stay Bright or Brownells' Hi-Force 44.  They are low enough temperature that the heat does not effect the hardness of the sole very much.  I hold the battery by the toe in a vise so the face is horizontal and facing upward.  Then I tin it and lay the hardened sole on top.  Then I heat from below until the solder flows again and the sole settles into place. 

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Offline Leatherbark

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Re: resoling a frizzen
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2025, 03:03:24 PM »
If I may interject a useful question.  Do you all grind the face of the frizzen to allow for the thickness of the sole plate so the dimensions are the same or does it matter?

Bob

Offline Longknife

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Re: resoling a frizzen
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2025, 03:32:42 PM »
I usually grind the frizzen face juts to clean it up and check that the new sole will clear the fence, and grind till it will clear. Just remember, a lighter frizzen will snap open faster....LK
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Offline rich pierce

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Re: resoling a frizzen
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2025, 03:43:05 PM »
That soldering technique works great. I think the period technique was brazing, which I’ve done before by adding a mix of borax and brass filings between the sole and face and wiring in place. Once it flows, let it cool to hsrdening temp and quench in brine. The darn wire will braze on also. Cleanup required. I don’t have an acetylene torch. This is the 2 propane torches - brick cubby method.
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Offline Mattox Forge

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Re: resoling a frizzen
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2025, 05:52:17 PM »
Thanks. I have an original lock that needs a resol. Someone put the frizzen up to a flat grinder at some point. I filed out a new face from 1085 and hardened it. I  put some of the ground off parts on to the resol part to make the frizzen look whole again. I was a little worried about loosing the temper  but using the low heat solder sounds like a good idea.


Mike