bag ??

[The other DWS]

any ideas or documentation on northern frontier hunting bags and accoutrements.  specifically western Great lakes area items.   I've seen a fair amount of Native American and HB/co era decorative stuff but it tends to be early to mid 19th century.  There are a couple of European collections made in the F&I and Rev War period and taken back to Europe by visitors and military,  but I question how typical they'd be.

[G. Elsenbeck]

Have you visited any of your State/municipalities museums to get an idea of the type of accouterments you're looking for?
Gary

[The other DWS]

not enough for my eyes to discern any sort of regional type or pattern.   I was rather hoping that perhaps some one else had done so.   

Perhaps the settlement pattern was too late and from too many directions and so just not conducive to the type of accoutrement development seen in the trans-Appalachian regions.   The early french and smattering of british left relatively few cultural footprints except in a few of the more densely settled areas and few of the earliest "american pioneers" of a non-military type predated the war of 1812 era, at least in the Upper Lakes

[James Rogers]

Karl Koster specializes in the Great Lakes area.
Check with him at karl_koster@hotmail.com or on the frontierfolk message board.

[The other DWS]

thank you, I'll pursue that and see what he can tell me.    Any other leads would be most appreciated.

    I'm in the process of recreating (re-interpreting) an old rifle I saw years ago up in southern Ontario.  It started life as a Type C fine grade trade gun but had been much modified over the years with a rifle barrel, half stocked and shortened, then converted from flint to percussion .  Mine will be a rifle but kept full length and as a flinter--sorta halfway between what it started as and what it wound up as.   never gave a lot of thought to the accoutrements before but thought I might see what might be done for this rifle

[T.C.Albert]

If it was bought at a trading post in early ~mid 19th century, a standard commercial type bag and horn of the era might be in order...even on the frontier.
TCA

[The other DWS]

the original type c it was derived from would have been 1740-ish.  however with the changes it went through it probably FAR outlived the original bag and horn before it wound up in the museum collection.   probably most any run of the mill bag and horn would be as appropriate as anything else--store bought or homemade.    might have a bit of canadian IN decoration or maybe some bit up trade silver ornamentation

  I no longer have the photos and notes and measurements--don't even recall which little museum I saw it it.  I had letters of intro from some of the N.American Fur Trade Conf. scholars and got into some "back rooms"  to look at the less than pristine "old junkers" that were not used for display.  saw a whole bunch of odd modified stuff in a number of small local museums; but this one really stuck in my head since the stock and furniture were so original.  I made several type c and d as well as a fusil fine and a couple of tulles based on museum and arch dug up stuff; this was before the "kits" became available