FLINCHES

[yip]

  ARE FLINCHES ON A TARGET LOW LEFT OR RIGHT? 

[smylee grouch]

A " flinch " is a physical reaction made by the shooter which can cast the point of impact in just about any direction IMHO

[beerd]

  ARE FLINCHES ON A TARGET LOW LEFT OR RIGHT?

yes, but sometimes high or low
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[recurve]

mine are low and right

[Daryl]

Right hand shooter, usually low right, left hand shooter, usually low left.



Sometimes, the distance from centre is less.

[yip]

 okay guys here io the target of the buddy of mine, any ideas

[JPK]

Poor load or poor shooter, each will give the same results.

[recurve]

watching the flash or over gripping the wrist pulling to the right .   try from a good solid support and see if his groups tighten up then adjust sights to center and  than  off hand.  aim at a small bright spot.

try having a 2nd person load prime the pan /not prime and watch for a flinch. the shooter never knowing if it's primed

develop a shooting rhythm
proper breathing , deep breath in and out then let part out hold
a line sights don't death grip the stock
slow squeeze trigger , surprise shot/hammer fall  ignore the flash (when you can see the patch fly down range you are no longer watching the Flash, hold on target till hearing the ball hit(fallow through)
don't rush the shot, if your rhythm is interrupted start over, you don't have to shoot
 unless it feels right( in archery we call it TARGET PANIC) the feeling that you have to shoot even if it's not right

[Daryl]

Different speed of ignition, shot to shot will show different right hand drift. That they are high and to the right, is interesting.
Usually low right for right handed.
As JPK noted, also possibility.
Were all 12 shots taken without having to wipe the bore?

[yip]

DARYL; DO YOU THINK IT A FLINCH? BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THIS GUY FOR A WHILE. THAT RIFLE IS 40 CAL AND ITS  FAST, NEVER SAW A RIFLE THAT FAST.

[axelp]

I am left-handed and My shots tend toward upper and to the right.

Its due to not so much a flinch, but a heavy handed trigger putt --in my case.

When I get into the right concentration and have better trigger control, this trend reduces significantly.

Ken

[Daryl]

Different speed of ignition, shot to shot will show different right hand drift. That they are high and to the right, is interesting.
Usually low right for right handed.
As JPK noted, also possibility.
Were all 12 shots taken without having to wipe the bore?

Could be a flinch, could be lousy load or moving hold, but the stringing is suspiciously flinching.
The faster the ignition, the less the movement before the gun goes off, when one is flinching.
If the group was round and spread out, it would be a testament to the load or overall shooting ability.
The stringing is suspect, as note.

[yip]

 DARYL THE BARREL IS NEW AS IS THE RIFLE, MAYBE A GOOD IDEA TO WIPE FOR A WHILE BETWEEN SHOTS

[Daryl]

I have NEVER wiped between shots, except once in a test for accuracy, back in the mid 70's as I'd read some guys said it was necessary for good accuracy.
I found no difference in accuracy when wiping or just shooting without wiping, so I prefer to not wipe as I much rather just load and shoot.
A .010" patch might be a hole patch for a thin shirt but in my honest opinion, has NO place in a rifle's bore.
Even back in .1973, I found .022" denim to be the best patch for me. I also had found some .020" linen, but it was so loose a weave (I assumed) as to give inferior accuracy.
I found the denim to be best, at that time. Been using it ever since.

[yip]

  THANKS, FELLOWS, FOR ALL THE REPLIES, I GUESS IT GONE BE A SOME WORK BUT WE SHALL OVER COME

[alacran]

I would have your friend shoot an open sighted .22. loading one shot at a time and see if can shoot worth a hoot. I assume he is shooting off a rest at 25 yards.
Kind of when I try to teach someone to throw a knife or a hawk. I first want to see if they can throw a rock.

[whetrock]

I would have your friend shoot an open sighted .22. loading one shot at a time and see if can shoot worth a hoot. I assume he is shooting off a rest at 25 yards.
Kind of when I try to teach someone to throw a knife or a hawk. I first want to see if they can throw a rock.

I think this is outstanding advice. Thanks for posting it.

[Steeltrap]

Kind of when I try to teach someone to throw a knife or a hawk. I first want to see if they can throw a rock.

I can throw a rock. Just don't stand behind me. 

[Daryl]

Like some of those female recruit videos, throwing a grenade?LOL
GOOD picture in the mind, Steelhead.

[J.D.]

Recurve gave good advice. In addition, have your student dry fire A LOT, to establish muscle memory. Aiming into a mirror, using a wooden block in place of the flint, aligning the sights on the sights in the reflection, and watching for jerking away from the reflected sight picture, when the shot breaks, is a good way to dry fire. If that makes sense? Constantly remind him to focus on the front sight. On the range, play blank and ball, as mentioned above.

[Steeltrap]

Recurve gave good advice. In addition, have your student dry fire A LOT, to establish muscle memory. Aiming into a mirror, using a wooden block in place of the flint, aligning the sights on the sights in the reflection, and watching for jerking away from the reflected sight picture, when the shot breaks, is a good way to dry fire. If that makes sense? Constantly remind him to focus on the front sight. On the range, play blank and ball, as mentioned above.

I tried that a few times. But the problem was, I was so good looking that I'd swoon seeing myself in the mirror, and then pass out. 

[Daryl]

 

[Steeltrap]

 

 

[J.D.]

 

[thecapgunkid]

The only way I ever beat flinching....back in 1983 or so...was to have a buddy prime while I turned away.  Dry firing, sometimes he primed and sometimes he didn't .

I almost always drop low right, and not practicing or wood flint dry firing makes me sometimes shoot in a different zip code...