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J Shingler

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.530 Lee Ball Mold question
« on: February 01, 2010, 04:28:27 AM »
I guess this is more in making balls for our rifles and not the rifle itself so if it needs to go in a different category please adjust it.

I have had two LEE .530 molds that seem to cast .533 ball. My rifle likes the .527 ball and it loads easy. However the .530 is not bad. The .533 is getting pretty tight to load by hand. Same lead temp and lead alloy. (As pure as I can get) This LEE is over sized while other LEE molds I have are spot on. Same with my Lymans. Anyone else have over sized .530 balls out of this mold? As I have tried two of them and this is the only mold I have trouble with I am looking for a replacement. Anyone recommend a double cavity mold that can cast a true .530 ball. or better yet a double cavity .527?
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Jeff

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Re: .530 Lee Ball Mold question
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2010, 06:21:54 AM »
I have a .530 lee that throws .533 balls to.  No prob for me since a .535 actually works better.  I never measured the .535 balls!!  I'll go do it right now...................... Can't find any.  Must be time to fire up the lead pot.
Mike Lee

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Re: .530 Lee Ball Mold question
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2010, 07:51:17 PM »
I shoot a lot of cast bullets in centerfires.  Lee bullet molds are not as precise as Lyman or RCBS.  One Lee I have casts a 314 30 cal bullet, whcih was nice as that is what I used it in.  The one I got for a Steyr straight pull had to be 330 whcih is barely adequate in diameter and right on for what it lists as size.  I never really miked the round ball molds as they were used with patching and did not feel it mattered, but I am willing to bet they varied also.  I guess you kind of get what you pay for.  A Lee mold to me is a very good buy, but I have Lyman's that are much more pleasant to cast with, especially for a higher volume.

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Re: .530 Lee Ball Mold question
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2010, 09:37:22 PM »
Yes I agree I like my Lyman molds better but have not beenable to find a double cavity .530 anyplace but Lee. All my other Lee molds come close to the stated size except the .530. I am a competitive shooter and it makes a difference. Not so much on shot placement but how it loads. My .527, .530, and .533 all shot good just the .533 loads hard. Of course that is my double mold is throwing out of both cavities. Cost is not the problem (within reason), who makes one? I do not see one Listed on Lymans site. 

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Re: .530 Lee Ball Mold question
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2010, 11:16:06 PM »
If your .54 has a true .540" bore, the .535" might be more accurate yet, of course, you'll need a good crown and .020" or heavier patches. ;)

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Re: .530 Lee Ball Mold question
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2010, 12:11:34 AM »
Northmn, my lee .330 throws a .332 with wheel weights.  Also got the push thru sizer but have not used it yet, except for squeezing down some speer .338 cal.
Mike Lee

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Re: .530 Lee Ball Mold question
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2010, 01:54:23 AM »
If your .54 has a true .540" bore, the .535" might be more accurate yet, of course, you'll need a good crown and .020" or heavier patches. Wink

Just the opposite. I want to thumb start which I can do with .527 and a true .530 ball and .015 patch. Accuracy is really good with both. I am a traditional shooter and there are a good number of matches that I go to that speed in loading will make or brake your score. Just can not thumb start the .533 ball. Tired of single cavity molds and am looking for a .530 double mold.  Seems others have the same problem with the .530 Lee.

Jeff

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Re: .530 Lee Ball Mold question
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2010, 02:20:34 AM »
I just checked balls from mine and they're about equally divided between .531 and .530.  Pure lead, of course.  That inspires me to go back and check results with a couple of REAL molds.  Both weights of 54 cal are really tough to start, but the 58 cal is reasonable.  I'm wondering if the 54 cal versions are larger than advertised.

Daryl

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Re: .530 Lee Ball Mold question
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2010, 05:24:04 PM »
Lee moulds are cheap = cheaply made and cheaply sold.  Lyman and RCBS blocks, along with Rapine are of much superior quality and demand 4 times the cost, but you can still have issues with them, at times.  Cherries are expensive and must be used for as many blocks as possible, sharpening as necessary until they cut a mould too far underize to be useable. This happens more often with bullet moulds, than round ball moulds.
My Lee RB moulds cast more balls that are out of round than do the iron or brass blocks of better quality moulds, but they are all useable for me. Yes- I know how to close the Lee mounds perfectly every time - they simply do not case round balls as often as my Lyman or RCBS moulds. In other worlds, the Lyman or RCBS moulds I have cast more perfectly round balls than the Lee moulds.

You get what you pay for. The .526" RB Lyman mould Taylor has, casts perfectly round .526" balls. I use these balls in the tight .530" bored pistol barrel of my flinter. They load easily with a .015" patch.  My .395", .454", .495", .457", .451" and .684" iron moulds also cast perfectly round balls. None of my Lee moulds do as well.  2 out of 4 Tanner moulds cast perfectly round balls, while the other two are out about .002" which is negligeble and makes no difference.

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Re: .530 Lee Ball Mold question
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2010, 05:59:12 PM »
I can't say as I've had a problem with my .530 mold.  That doesn't mean my .530 actually casts .530" diameter balls though.  It just means that my gun shoots satisfactorily with whatever balls that mold throws.

I'm sure I've mic'd them but I can't remember what they came out to.  Perfectly round?  No.  But a mold for $20, who's gonna complain?

It could be that .530 is pushing the limits for a double cavity block. 

Daryl

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Re: .530 Lee Ball Mold question
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2010, 06:49:39 PM »
I have a .562" DC Lee mould that casts within .002" of round.  That's near enough to perfect for me. Unless they are not tightly patched, they might remain out of round, which could conceivably effect accuracy. If tightly patched, as normal for me, they become round once seated into the bore.

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Re: .530 Lee Ball Mold question
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2010, 07:51:02 PM »
I am not having any problems with the mold. If you need .533 they are about perfict. Smooth round very nice, just to big. I am looking for .527 -.530 This Getz 47" barrel shoots AND loads wonderful with that size. Anything larger shoots fine just hard to load. So this .533 is .003 to .006 larger than my needs. I have single molds that cast the perfict ball just slow to mold one at a time. I want a two or four cavity mold.
Jeff

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Re: .530 Lee Ball Mold question
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2010, 02:38:16 AM »
I don't have contact info, but there is a guy by the name of Tanner in Britain who will make you a mold to your size spec and I understand that they are not overly expensive.
Mike Lee

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Re: .530 Lee Ball Mold question
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2010, 06:37:25 AM »
I think the guy is Jeff Tanner and I have one of his molds in .970 for the wall gun. Not sure if he makes a double cavity though. Worth looking into. Thanks

The other I was thinking about was Rapine. Anyone know how to contact Ray?

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Re: .530 Lee Ball Mold question
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2010, 05:50:57 PM »
Jeff makes Single Cavity moulds only.