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JoeG

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Re: original full stocked Hawken flintlock rifle
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2010, 11:34:52 AM »
I really like the look of the single trigger
 do you know if it is it a plain trigger or a set trigger?

Thank you for posting the pictures

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Re: original full stocked Hawken flintlock rifle
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2010, 10:42:47 PM »
Thanks to everyone who has replied to this thread, and especially to those who took the time to send info via e-mail.  I have found it most enlightening and useful.
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Re: original full stocked Hawken flintlock rifle
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2010, 03:52:38 AM »
I am sorry, but I don't have any details on the trigger - whether set or not.

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Re: original full stocked Hawken flintlock rifle
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2010, 04:10:21 AM »
I can say with fair confidence, that that is a simple trigger, not a set trigger.
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Re: original full stocked Hawken flintlock rifle
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2011, 03:41:06 PM »
Hello
I registered because I had a detailed question about Samuel Hawken of St. Louis, as I've been researching his plains rifles - it was about his wife that died in 1821/22 - no one seemed to ever mention her name. In the meantime, I've come across his entire family tree - he was married twice - and thought I'd put it here, just in case. And since I've found my answer outside this forum anyway, it's 'only' a courtesy visit, and to thank you for all the great photos ...
Hawken Family History
http://www.millercountymuseum.org/080811.html
http://www.millercountymuseum.org/presidents/080811_02_HawkenFamilyHistory1.jpg
His first wife was Rosanna Oster, she died 1821; he remarried and the name of his second wife was Martha Ritchey.
cheers
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Re: original full stocked Hawken flintlock rifle
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2011, 07:51:51 PM »
California Kid,
I have this rifle in my collection, and was previously owned by a noted collector prior to it appearing on that web site. Its a beautiful rifle. I am curious about your interpretation, please tell.

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Re: original full stocked Hawken flintlock rifle
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2011, 02:32:03 AM »
I really like the look of the single trigger
 do you know if it is it a plain trigger or a set trigger?

Thank you for posting the pictures

Its likely a plain trigger. There is a 1/2 stock In "Firearms of the American West 1803-1865" with a single trigger and there is one that was featured in MB with a single trigger and single key forend IIRC.

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Re: original full stocked Hawken flintlock rifle
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2011, 03:13:10 AM »
There are five full stock Hawken guns pictured in Gordon,s book, Great Gunmakers for the Early West Vol. III but sorry to say none with flint locks. The first one on page 363 and the second one on page 364 could have been flinters. Both guns are marked J&S Hawken and number one has what looks like a flintlock lock plate.    Smylee

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Re: original full stocked Hawken flintlock rifle
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2011, 03:58:10 AM »
I stand corrected on the previous post as the gun on 364 is a half stock. Looks early though.