lock disassembly

[jdclampett]

i've been watching this board for quite some time now and have learned a lot. i'm on my first build and this is my first post. i've taken the lock apart to fit the lock plate in the mortise and plan to brown it while i have it apart. but i can't get the hammer off. its so tight on that square piece that i've ruined a brass punch. any body got any tips before i ruin this lock too? oh yeah, its a small siler flintlock.

[caliber45]

JD -- In my experience, every Siler lock comes with a "how-to" instruction sheet outlining procedure to remove the hammer from the tumbler. If you didn't get one, you should contact the lock provider (assuming you purchased it new), and ask for one. -- paulallen, tucson az

[Scott Semmel]

Take a look at shop made tools first topic

[Roger Fisher]

Take a look at shop made tools first topic

Yes, and normal procedure is to brown all the parts at once.  In other words, build the rifle/gun then if you are browning the iron parts take her all apart and brown 'em then!  That's one thing about brass butt plates etc. once they are on/in they stay there.....

[Dr. Tim-Boone]

JD,  You can set it on a vice so that it works the same way as Keith's tool.

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=8705.0

[KentSmith]

I have an old work bench I inherited from my Grandfather.  It has the square holes for bench stops.  I have a couple that I have stuffed the shavings from planing work.  When I need to remove the hammer and tumbler, to get a quarter inch punch, place the lock hammer up with the tumbler in the bench stop hole and uing the punch and a small ball peen hamer pop the tumnbler out of the hammer and lock hole both.  The shavings keep the tumber from falling on the floor and bouncing around getting lost somewhere I can't findit.  Works well.  The punch has to be small enough to fit the hammer hole but large nough to not get jammed in the hammer screw hole. 

You need to fabricate something that works like that or use the vise to hold the plate and punch from there then retrieve the tumbler.  If it's jammed too tight for this to work heat the hammer a bit with your torch before punching but do not heat the hammer hole and ruin the temper of the tumbler.

Hope this makes sense.

[Jim Chambers]

Read my response the the lock disassembly thread on the tutorial section.  It deals with  this part of the disassembly.

[Ken G]

Here's the link to the lock disassembly thread.

http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=8986.0

[jdclampett]

thanks for all your help, guys. i got it. this my first build, i've got RECREATING THE AMERICAN LONG RIFLE, read it several times and i have Turpins video that i've watched more than once. but i gotta say there is a ton of information on this forum.thanks again!