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Sam Everly

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Original boys rifle
« on: August 29, 2008, 12:35:48 AM »
This rifle weighs in at about 5 lbs.  its LOP is 12 1/2'". its butt is 3 1/2 tall and 13/16 wide .the lock is 4 1/4 x 7/8 inches and marked Harpers ferry 1807. and the barrel is 35 1/2 long x 11/16  and is 38 cal. Overall length is about 50 inches
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Re: Original boys rifle
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Offline Elnathan

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Re: Original boys rifle
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2008, 01:26:25 AM »
Re-converted? That cock is identical to one on a gun shown in Fadala's Black Powder Handbook. Other than that, neat rifle. I am sure it made one boy very happy at one point...
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Re: Original boys rifle
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2008, 01:56:21 AM »
Nice rifle.  Any ideas as to who or where it was made (Henderson Co. NC?)?  Thanks for sharing.
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Sam Everly

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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2008, 02:07:52 AM »
I think the hammer was replaced . The pan is original to the lock plate and rifle along with the frizzen . Also i think the side plate is new , but made to fit the original inlet. I don't think it is from NC. If i had to guess E.Tenn. the guard and triggers look like some of the rifles in Jerry Nobles books . Jerry says they are E. Tenn .
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2008, 02:35:26 AM »
Sam,
Thanks for posting the pictures.  I hope you don't mind but I stored them away for later reference.  Neat boys rifle!  What does the tang and entry pipe look like? 
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Ken
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Sam Everly

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Re: Original boys rifle
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2008, 02:49:09 AM »
Ken , it is a Lolly Pop tang and the entry pipe is the same as the two upper pipes . The nose cap is about 3/4 of a inch long .  It really handles nice and balances at the entry pipe . I would use a 3/4 inch barrel in 40 cal.It would be about the same in weight as the original. The ram rod is just under 5/16 dia.
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2008, 03:00:50 AM »
Thanks Sam.   I really like that trigger guard.
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2008, 03:27:01 AM »
Sam..... thank you for your last two postings, I have very much enjoyed them.  I love the amazing usage of parts with the recycle of the Harpers Ferry lock.  This reshaped lock started life on a relatively scarce martial pistol. tim

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Re: Original boys rifle
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2008, 03:38:43 AM »
This is a run-of-the-mill smoothbore boy's gun.  On the frontier and homesteads it was the youngest son's job to hunt for pot meat every day.  This one is .40 cal.  The quarter on the wrist is for size reference.







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Re: Original boys rifle
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2008, 04:10:03 AM »
Wow Dave I got one just like that in my front hall.
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Re: Original boys rifle
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2008, 03:50:44 AM »
This thread makes me wonder what Ned Robert's first rifle looked like.  It was supposed to be a fine piece of a .36 cal. Boy's percussion gun, but with damaged (bent) barrel that was cut off at 20".

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« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2008, 06:18:14 AM »
Thats nice.