Japanese Pull Stroke Saws

[eagle24]

Any of you ever use these building a rifle?

[D. Taylor Sapergia]

I have a Doxuki from Lee Valley Tools, and I use it at the muzzle to cut the wood off a too long forend, and for the first cuts for the nose piece.  i use it to cut ramrods too.  The kerf is extremely thin, the cut is made with complete control on the pull stoke, and to the correct depth with confidence.

[Roger Fisher]

Any of you ever use these building a rifle?

Yes, and you can if carefull take as little as 1/8th inch off the blank nearly down to the lock area.   I say again 'if carefull' don't let your mind wander.  Been there done that!

[eagle24]

I just used one of the cross cut pull stroke saws.  It was a bigger saw for cutting framing lumber (carpentry).  Cut through a spruce 2x4 with ease in 2 strokes.  I was amazed.  Got me wondering if the smaller cabinet/finish saws were that impressive.

[ehoff]

Used one for removing excess wood on the butt stock on my current project. They cut very fast and straight. My only suggestion is to practice on some 2x or other material to get the feel of the saw.

[The other DWS]

sources please?

[eagle24]

sources please?

here's one source

http://www.traditionalwoodworker.com/default.php/cPath/37_532

[rich pierce]

I got one from a cheap big box store (home depot) and it's been good for 2 years of work.  Mine has a crosscut edge on one side and a ripping edge on t'other.

[bluenoser]

I really like the way these saws cut.  But I hope you have better luck getting one resharpened than I did.  Never did find a sharpening shop that would touch one.  I now consider them to be throw-aways when dull.    However, they do make great raw material for scrapers. 

BTW, I haven't used one on a gun project yet.  I have used them on construction/cabinet installation jobs where one is more likely to dull them.  Now why would anybody put a nail there??

Laurie

[Dr. Tim-Boone]

I got one from a cheap big box store (home depot) and it's been good for 2 years of work.  Mine has a crosscut edge on one side and a ripping edge on t'other.

8+, 9+ or 10+ inch saw Rich? Was it less than $40.00?

[rich pierce]

That doggone thing must be a foot long (about the length of a minimum keeper bass) and 3" wide at the wide end.  Think I paid about $25.  Big long black plastic detachable handle.

[eagle24]

Tim,
This is the one I think I am going to try.

http://www.traditionalwoodworker.com/product_info.php/cPath/37_532_574/products_id/3848

BTW, are you going to be at the CLA show this year?  I'd like to meet you if you are since we are neighbors down here in the south.

[The other DWS]

KOOL TOOL catalogue ,  its a killer for a confirmed tool junkie.   I was looking at the scrapers and found a tool I bought at a old farm sale years ago that I'd never found out what it was before  a "box scraper"

[Dr. Tim-Boone]

Check this one out too...... http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/japanesesilkyhibikiryobasaw.aspx

It looks like the Ryoba like Rich has would be good for ripping the sides offf of forestocks??  The Dozuki has a reinforcement on the bak edge that looks like it would get in the way??

Greg, that universal looks good, I am always a little afraid of one size fits all though... Need some input from the experienced bunch.  Yeah I plan to go to TN Gunshow in April and to CLA... perchance we can hook up.

[The other DWS]

Thank you Tim ,  just went to that link, promptly called'em and ordered the saw AND a replacement blade  AND they are on sale at a hefty percentage off---saw and replacement blades

[eagle24]

Check this one out too...... http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/japanesesilkyhibikiryobasaw.aspx

It looks like the Ryoba like Rich has would be good for ripping the sides offf of forestocks??  The Dozuki has a reinforcement on the bak edge that looks like it would get in the way??

That one looks good Tim and is made by Silky.  11tpi & 19tpi should be a good combo for our needs.  I have two Silky folding saws (like the one below it) that I carry in my backpack when I am bowhunting.  They are awesome quality saws.

[billd]

I have a "MARPLES" I bought for about 20 bucks at Home Depot or Lowes. I use it for ripping the sides of the blank the length of the barrel. Cuts fast and straight.  I draw a line 1/8" from the barrel and stay just outside the line. It works great.  I cut 4 maple blanks and one ash so far with it and it's still sharp. For 20 bucks I'll just throw it away when it gets dull.

The ones with teeth on both sides of the blade just double the chances of me cutting myself. I'll buy two different saws.

Bill

[David Veith]

I have had Two of the two sided ones And for a hand saw I can't even think of using anything else. Rip/ cross cut
David

[Acer Saccharum]

They are great tools. Cheaper to get a new blade than try to get one sharpened. Don't hit the metal vise jaws--harrrumph--- or you will be cussing yourself for being such a stupid, lazy, etc, etc, for a long, long time.

[David Veith]

Ya the current one is missing a couple of teeth. But I can't live with a Normal type push saw any more.
David Veith

[josephprivott]

good advice acer, I got mine on the vise swivel handle, managed to chew up the centre of the 'fine' side on my double style. Still works good. I love my saw(s), and replacement blades are easy to find at Lowes

one note: Don't get zealous pushing it back through. the metal is springy enough to withstand a good amount of abuse, but why push the envelope.

[wet willy]

Try this site: http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/

Exceptional quality hand tools, many for those making hand-crafted firearms.

Not inexpensive, but not needing to re-sharpen tools every few cuts is worth it. Their Japanese saws are incredible for accuracy, especially for making pistol boxes with dovetails and corner joints. Great gouges that can really hold an edge for inletting locks and triggers.

[Dr. Tim-Boone]

Well I took the bait and bought the Ryoba on sale at Highlands Hardware.....

[dannybb55]

sources please?

Before you tear up a nice saw learning to use it backwards, get a Bear Saw from Lowes or Home Depot. It has a rip side and a crosscut side. Once you get the hang of it lay out some real money for a good Nippon saw.
                                                 Danny

[rick landes]

You may want to check the Irwin brand. I think that was described here. These have a lifetime warranty...yes we have broken teeth and returned these. These work great for many things. I like the smaller double tooth design that seems to act like two small blades close together...I would think of it as a double square kerf vs the normal triangle type kerf.