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Title: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on January 06, 2014, 09:04:45 PM

Hi Folks!
Parts is now ready for a pistol. Stock maple from Jeger Justnes, brass parts from Muzzleloaderbuilderssupply, Colonial Virginia Lock from Jim Chambers and the barrel from a cannon cal 20mm ;)  http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=28822.msg275168#msg275168
Runar
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: smylee grouch on January 06, 2014, 09:10:55 PM

Here we go again, we all look forward to your builds and your documentation of the progress.

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Artificer on January 06, 2014, 10:45:53 PM

Looking forward to it.

Gus

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: gunmaker on January 07, 2014, 01:50:45 AM

that'll be a shooter, for sure.    Tom  P.S.  the barrel is completely wrong ! not anyway period correct----so if you send it to colonies we'll hide it for you.(no charge)   ;D 

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: cmac on January 07, 2014, 02:34:58 AM

What are you going to do with all your spare time? ;D You normally make most of your parts

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Jeger Justnes on January 07, 2014, 07:54:12 PM

Looking forward to another thread about pistol building. Going to be a pretty good
handful of gun, this one. I believe this piece of maple is American, pretty straight forward, no curls but there might be some "droplets" -or what should I call them?
Best of luck with the build, runastav (as if you need it)  ;)

Regards,
Tor

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: b bogart on January 07, 2014, 09:01:57 PM

Tor I believe we refer to those "droplets" as birdseye. It is a very interesting feature of maple! Have fun and be careful because those droplets can pop out of the wood at inopportune times.

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Jeger Justnes on January 07, 2014, 09:26:47 PM

Thanks a whole lot for that, b bogart!
I had it in my foreign vocabulary but the brain janitor could not seem to find the stepladder to reach the shelves where it was hiding  ::)

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on January 08, 2014, 06:02:22 PM

Hi Folks, and thank you all!
cmac, spare time? Shooting!
Barrel and tang is inlet, $#*! JJ this wood is not soft :P
Runar
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Jeger Justnes on January 08, 2014, 10:33:22 PM

Quote from: runastav on January 08, 2014, 06:02:22 PM

...$#*! JJ this wood is not soft :P

I was fresh out of balsa wood. After all, we're talking about building a sturdy pistol to last generations, not a  copy of the Kon Tiki ;-)

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Bob Roller on January 09, 2014, 03:37:35 AM

Years ago I read the story of Kon Tiki.As I recall,it was about some
fellows that built a heavy duty raft to go across the ocean with.I also think a man called
Thor Heyrdahl wrote it and another one called "Ra".

Bob Roller

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on January 10, 2014, 03:27:55 PM

Hi Folks, and thank you!
JJ maybe you and me can build a raft and sail to America sometime hehe ;)
So the barrels loops.
Runar
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: gunmaker on January 10, 2014, 08:44:13 PM

Didn't you guys already build some boats and sail to America ?  Come on over--we'll keep the light on for you.  (leave those axes home) good looking pistol runastav, be interested in seeing a target soon. ***If you draw around the lugs with a pencil, solder will roll off and not stick to bbl.  ..Tom

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on January 12, 2014, 08:44:10 PM

Hi all, and thank you Tom!
The soap trix works well when boring the ramrodhole ;) The pipes is nice casting
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: andy49 on January 14, 2014, 03:44:12 AM

I am new to gun building and I am sorry for probably a common knowledge question. How do you get this length of a drill bit?

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: cmac on January 14, 2014, 05:57:03 AM

You can make your own by welding a rod on. Or buy at Track of the wolf, Muzzleloader Builder's supply, probably McMaster Carr, etc.  For a pistol some local hardware stores carry 12". For a rifle stock most don't want the standard spiral drill though.  http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/01/13/suntory-buying-spirits-maker-beam/4450909/   http://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/1042/1/ROD-DRILL-6

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on January 15, 2014, 07:44:06 PM

Hi and thank you guys!
A little progress, the lock plate near inlett  ;)
Runar
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: multifasciatus on January 17, 2014, 07:22:18 PM

Hi

Thats going to be one awesome gun Runar.
Looking good!

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on January 18, 2014, 12:14:39 AM

Hi and thank you AJ!
Lock finish innlet
Runar
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on January 25, 2014, 06:48:20 PM

Hi Folks!
Back to gun building, the butt cap is innlet. My rat tail saw is nice use when innlet the the arms ;)
Runar
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Jeger Justnes on January 25, 2014, 08:44:23 PM

I'm just as interested in/impressed over your tools and work approach as your builds, Runar!
Always glad to see a piece of wood becoming a piece of art.

Best regards, Tor

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: mountainman70 on January 26, 2014, 02:26:07 AM

Lookout y'all,its about time for Runar to commence the whittlin' man what a cannon this is.Great work.Dave

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: BrushCountryAg03 on January 26, 2014, 10:09:12 PM

I love this!  Please keep posting pictures with your continued progress!

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: sweed on January 27, 2014, 05:55:50 PM

Great work. Good photos. Love it. I'm learnin. Keep on, Keepin on!! Thanks.

sweed

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on January 27, 2014, 07:56:07 PM

Hi and thank you all for nice comments :)
The trigger made and in its place.
Runar
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Angus on January 28, 2014, 04:43:24 AM

Runar,
You are going to put the BOOM in the Dragoon.
There needs to be some kind of Craftsman award for the work you do over yonder.
Great work as you have an audience at attention here awaiting the next segment of your broadcast!

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on January 29, 2014, 06:38:14 PM

Hi all and thank you Angus :)
Trigger guard
Runar
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: gunmaker on January 29, 2014, 08:22:17 PM

coming good & getting closer...Tom

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on January 31, 2014, 04:07:59 PM

Hi all and thank you Tom :)
Buttcap button, nice face ;)
Runar
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: gunmaker on February 01, 2014, 01:10:52 AM

Looks like my wife--when she sees the UPS/FEDX guy at the door ;D  ...Tom

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on February 03, 2014, 07:54:01 PM

Hi, gunmaker hmmm looks like my wife to ;)
Triggerplate.
Runar
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Clark Badgett on February 04, 2014, 12:33:46 AM

Runar, you have some of the best build threads around here. Love 'em

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on February 07, 2014, 07:45:03 PM

Hi all, and thank you Clark B :)
I make the tang bolt and lockplate bolt of cheap 5 mm carrage blot little latch work and bingo ;)
Runar
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on February 07, 2014, 07:50:59 PM

Runastav, I very much enjoy watching your project evolve.  I too like using carriage bolts for #10 screw blanks.  They have a nice large head and you can cut the slot size that suits you.  Before I got a decent lathe, I used to file them out by hand, and them 'turn' them in an electric drill held in the vise.
Your pistol is coming along nicely.

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Bob Roller on February 07, 2014, 09:10:38 PM

Get some 12L14 in different sizes.I use 5/32"for internal lock screws,3/8"
for hammer screws and some times 7/16".This stuff machines with no effort
and takes good threads. I also sometimes use 1/2" to make 2/2x16 lead crews
for the Atlas 618 lathe I made into a screw making machine.
Stove bolts and the like are usually at the low end of the scale in new made ones
and there is no need of them once the real screw stock is tried.
The little 1x72 I make from drill rod and it's for the link to the mainspring.

Bob Roller

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on February 10, 2014, 07:10:05 PM

Hi and thank you Taylor and Bob :)
Sideplate of 3mm brass.  This pistol is big so far 1765 gram ;)
Runar
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: gunmaker on February 10, 2014, 08:58:03 PM

A big girl with a loud voice....looking good real good...Tom

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on March 12, 2014, 05:36:50 PM

Hi and thank you gunmaker!
Back to the pistol, stock is sanded and ready for carving ;)
Runar
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: dlbarr on March 12, 2014, 10:54:29 PM

Runar, this is a fascinating build. Thanks for sharing it with us.

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on March 18, 2014, 03:10:01 PM

Hi Gents, and thank you Dave :)
The pistol is now ready for proof testing. It is 48 cm long, and weight 1720 kilogram, the earlyer build Derringer is small hehe ;D Water  base stain and Danish oil finish, it is not perfekt but good enough for me.
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Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: oldfox on March 18, 2014, 03:27:17 PM

Very nice!  Well done!

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: sweed on March 18, 2014, 04:35:04 PM

Beautiful  :o :o I want that!!!!
Thanks for the education..
By the way Tom, Thats what a work bench should look like.... ::) for normal people anyway! :D  ;D

swed

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Kermit on March 18, 2014, 05:57:55 PM

Quite the bellygun.

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Clark Badgett on March 19, 2014, 12:32:38 AM

Quote from: runastav on March 18, 2014, 03:10:01 PM

Hi Gents, and thank you Dave :)
The pistol is now ready for proof testing. It is 48 cm long, and weight 1720 kilogram, the earlyer build Derringer is small hehe ;D Water  base stain and Danish oil finish, it is not perfekt but good enough for me.
Runar

The only thing left to make it perfect is to polish the lock. All told, that is an awesome looking service pistol.

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: snidervolley on December 12, 2014, 10:29:59 PM

that is totally awesome work and thank you for the progression pics
I should add the sight notch in the tang on mine nice touch.

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: snidervolley on December 19, 2014, 03:38:17 AM

runastav
what lock did you use ? it looks like a quality lock that will fit mortise for my dragoon with not so quality lott lock

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on December 19, 2014, 10:30:10 AM

Hi All and thank you!
snidervolley, the lock is a very nice Jim Chamber Virginia Fowler flint lock :) I havent testshoot the pistol yet, it is on the list of guns wayting for the shooting range ;)
Runar

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: McLeanWelsh on December 19, 2014, 10:39:50 AM

Wow just awesome.

Now where might someone find a piece of barrel that size ? $

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Daryl on December 19, 2014, 09:30:18 PM

Thank you, Runar and very well presented.

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: kaintuck on December 20, 2014, 05:32:50 AM

Very nice.....I've seen wal guns....now this is the 1st "wall pistol"!

Marc n tomtom

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Steve Bookout on January 22, 2015, 08:20:15 AM

You did it again, Runar!  1st class work.

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: runastav on January 22, 2015, 04:30:13 PM

Hi Blackpowder friends!
Thank you all! Steve, har du vært på Hawai igjen hehe?
Runar

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Curt Larsen on January 22, 2015, 06:20:51 PM

Runar:  I think we all learn from you with each gun to build.  I'm sure glad that Rolf convinced you to join our group.  Where are you guys in Norway in case we want to come and visit?
mvh
Curt

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Old Ford2 on January 23, 2015, 03:25:18 PM

Runar!
You make this gun making hobby look soooo easy looking. and you make many of the parts from raw material.
You are a true inspiration to us all.
Thank you for your pictures and time to show us how and what you did.
WHERE did you get that fine looking barrel???
All the best!
Fred

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: smylee grouch on January 23, 2015, 04:00:10 PM

Runar-strikingly beautiful. As every one has already said, thanks for bringing us along for the ride.

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: shifty on January 23, 2015, 04:26:38 PM

  Hey Runastav when you said Cannon and 20mm,i thought of my old Air Cav days,how does this monster perform.

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Robby on January 23, 2015, 04:44:55 PM

Awesome gun runastav!!! Thank you for taking the time to catalog the whole process, really cool!!!
Robby

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Rolf on January 23, 2015, 08:46:41 PM

Quote from: Old Ford2 on January 23, 2015, 03:25:18 PM

Runar!
WHERE did you get that fine looking barrel???
All the best!
Fred

Runar asked me to answer. I bought a used 20mm Vulcan cannon barrel from a F14 Tomcat fighter on an internet auction. Dennis kindly cut it into four 12.5” sections and mailed to them to Runar, who turned the barrels. You can se the process here. http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=28822.0

Best regards
Rolf

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: bob hertrich on January 27, 2015, 09:43:27 PM

That is a great looking pistol and thanks for posting the build. Always enjoyable.

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: Steve Bookout on January 28, 2015, 08:55:08 AM

God dag Nordmann! Hawai'i var praktfull. Du vil gjerne gå neste tid? Din stempel er praktfull og jeg er misunnelig.  Mvh   

Title: Re: Building a rifled big bore Dragoon Pistol
Post by: bob hertrich on January 28, 2015, 05:08:23 PM

Runastav. just wondering how long it took to put the pistol together.