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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: webradbury on August 27, 2017, 02:09:52 AM

Title: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: webradbury on August 27, 2017, 02:09:52 AM
As the title says. I can't decide if the curve at the bottom will be good or bad. I don't want to get halfway through a build and decide I don't like it. Will
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: okawbow on August 27, 2017, 02:32:42 AM
I made a .30 cal. Soddy with a 3/4" barrel, using that lock. One of my favorite rifles.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4376/36688183341_85d92faf5b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XU1wHc)P2120645 (https://flic.kr/p/XU1wHc) by okawbow (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20524843@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: webradbury on August 27, 2017, 02:35:46 AM
That doesn't look bad at all! Thanks for that!
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: Majorjoel on August 27, 2017, 07:46:05 AM
  (https://image.ibb.co/nH0dH5/P1030676.jpg)
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: Bob Roller on August 31, 2017, 08:06:59 PM
Quote from: okawbow on August 27, 2017, 02:32:42 AM
I made a .30 cal. Soddy with a 3/4" barrel, using that lock. One of my favorite rifles.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4376/36688183341_85d92faf5b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/XU1wHc)P2120645 (https://flic.kr/p/XU1wHc) by okawbow (https://www.flickr.com/photos/20524843@N03/), on Flickr

That is a fine looking Southern rifle.That L&R lock looks fine and another would be the Chambers late
Ketland.If they weren't so labor intensive I had thought about making a few of the Ketlands like I made
years ago for the "Flint"Hawken makers.

Bob Roller
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: Robby on September 01, 2017, 10:55:24 PM

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2Fe5CLbv%2FIMG_0004.jpg&hash=7e2f69dc62ed1d5931f4dc0d7110e7a2b720032e) (http://ibb.co/cYcmGv)



(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FixOMia%2FIMG_0003.jpg&hash=c48eb78f1831931a3505911d323f02e0c60c7135) (http://ibb.co/cYKu3a)
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: David Rase on September 01, 2017, 11:06:04 PM

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2Fc42xOa%2FDSCF0876.jpg&hash=3e4b8c35f3ed283da41a8991507bdafd14b1b843) (http://ibb.co/f1V6Gv)
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: webradbury on September 01, 2017, 11:08:28 PM
Quote from: Robby on September 01, 2017, 10:55:24 PM

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2Fe5CLbv%2FIMG_0004.jpg&hash=7e2f69dc62ed1d5931f4dc0d7110e7a2b720032e) (http://ibb.co/cYcmGv)



(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FixOMia%2FIMG_0003.jpg&hash=c48eb78f1831931a3505911d323f02e0c60c7135) (http://ibb.co/cYKu3a)

Robby, what caliber is that rifle? That barrel looks tiny! Very nice, is that walnut? Will
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: Robby on September 01, 2017, 11:23:37 PM
The top one is .50, 50" barrel, walnut stock, and a very good shooter, the lower one is a .36, 42" barrel, hard maple stock, and is a consistent and exceptionally accurate shooter.
Robby
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: Dennis Glazener on September 01, 2017, 11:26:45 PM
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FdnfL9F%2FP1010080.jpg&hash=d0722c4192060ecfe059fc27d4577ff6859affbd) (http://ibb.co/c0NYUF)

The second rifle from the top in the above photo has an L & R Balies lock. Back in 2005 I came across an old Gillespie barrel with the dolls head tang still in it, so I built a rifle for one of my Gillespie family cousins. I am not sure (too long ago) but I think the lock in the top rifle is a Cochran, I remember I had to do a lot of work on it including bushing the tumbler shaft!

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FbUjQbv%2FP1010073.jpg&hash=792366fbf59c93e79c514a8f5ce90ba26052628d) (http://ibb.co/bM1SpF)

Same rifle with the Balies lock (top rifle) you can get a look at the original tang that was in this barrel. Its shaped like a few other Gillespie tangs but not all of theirs looked like this on.


Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: Daryl on September 02, 2017, 02:32:37 AM
I have a Bailes Lock'd Gun - but it's on this thing.;

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FjVH0Rv%2F54_English_Holster_Pistol_right_side.jpg&hash=c98362568c8051e4b13f5a10bd42b38297a3aef7) (http://ibb.co/nCKEmv)

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2FkPb5ta%2F45_Bl_English_Pistol_1.jpg&hash=4b7cecf6837b78b3d5f7ec5803966534ce42dd8c) (http://ibb.co/hvG5ta)
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: webradbury on September 02, 2017, 04:55:12 AM
That "thing" looks very nice!
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: David Rase on September 02, 2017, 06:36:39 AM
Quote from: Daryl on September 02, 2017, 02:32:37 AM
I have a Bailes Lock'd Gun - but it's on this thing.;
There's always one in every crowd!  ::)
David
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: Robby on September 02, 2017, 04:53:37 PM
Quote from: Daryl on September 02, 2017, 02:32:37 AM
I have a Bailes Lock'd Gun - but it's on this thing.;

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FjVH0Rv%2F54_English_Holster_Pistol_right_side.jpg&hash=c98362568c8051e4b13f5a10bd42b38297a3aef7) (http://ibb.co/nCKEmv)

(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.ibb.co%2FkPb5ta%2F45_Bl_English_Pistol_1.jpg&hash=4b7cecf6837b78b3d5f7ec5803966534ce42dd8c) (http://ibb.co/hvG5ta)

Yes, but is it 'rifled'?
Robby
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: oldtravler61 on September 02, 2017, 05:16:47 PM
  Daryl even I know that's not a rifle.
  But none the less a fine looking short gun. Oldtravler
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: Robin Henderson on September 02, 2017, 05:17:50 PM
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FezJQBv%2F20170720_151904.jpg&hash=d09d5e6dcc3b1d331f760b5a5825d8de51268517) (http://ibb.co/fXuyWv)

The little .40 caliber I just cobbled together.
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: Marcruger on September 02, 2017, 07:25:14 PM
Doesn't look very "cobbled" from the photo.  :-)  For a cobbler, you make a nice looking rifle.   :-D  God Bless,  Marc
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: Daryl on September 02, 2017, 07:55:01 PM
Yes Robby- both barrels. The octagonal bl. is .45 and 18" twist and the bright .53 has 60" twist.
The .45 barrel is now a caplock with a drum and nipple and percussion Bailes lock. Makes a nice convertible piece.
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: webradbury on September 02, 2017, 08:01:11 PM
Daryl, is that silver hardware?
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: Robby on September 02, 2017, 08:16:27 PM
Either way Daryl, They are nice looking pistols!
Robin
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: hanshi on September 02, 2017, 08:38:09 PM
That Tn SMR sure does look nice.  Curious, however; None of the other photos show up on my screen.  How are they posted??
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: Ted Kramer on September 02, 2017, 09:45:26 PM
Here's one on a TN rifle I built in 2011. BBL is a 7/8".
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FiKLauF%2FBailes_lock_on_Tenn.jpg&hash=14331f275ad6c9bad95b327977e7a2ef68952333) (http://ibb.co/dnXATa)
(https://americanlongrifles.org/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FngZJEF%2FTenn_lock_side.jpg&hash=42d21d653a6244529703e8e26a0624b9ea632ad1) (http://ibb.co/hw5fTa)
Title: Re: Any photos of southern rifles with L & R Bailes lock?
Post by: sqrldog on September 02, 2017, 10:32:19 PM
Nice rifle Ted. I like a slender southern rifle.