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General discussion => Gun Building => Topic started by: rich pierce on January 22, 2021, 05:57:53 PM

Title: Germanic pistol locks?
Post by: rich pierce on January 22, 2021, 05:57:53 PM

Is there anything out there 1750-1780s besides the small Siler?

Title: Re: Germanic pistol locks?
Post by: ed lundquist on January 22, 2021, 06:22:19 PM

Rich, I used a Kibler on my last pistol, If is the same size as the Siler. Pan is rounded  and tail is shaped, maybe a weld around the pan and a bit of filing?

Title: Re: Germanic pistol locks?
Post by: rich pierce on January 22, 2021, 06:33:00 PM

Thanks, Ed, so much of the styling is later - cock, pan, frizzen spring, and tail shape - I’m sure it’s a sparker but a mite too much modification for me.

Title: Re: Germanic pistol locks?
Post by: ed lundquist on January 22, 2021, 06:34:00 PM

Stan Hollenbaugh?

Title: Re: Germanic pistol locks?
Post by: Dave B on January 22, 2021, 06:38:09 PM

 the flat faced Becky can be made to look like a germanic lock by putting flats on the flash pan and some touch up on the plate contour. Just getting one could be a challenge.

Title: Re: Germanic pistol locks?
Post by: smart dog on January 22, 2021, 08:31:22 PM

Hi Rich,
I don't know your objectives but not all German locks were flat faced.  There is a wonderful Kuchenreuter pistol in Norman Dixon's book, "Georgian Pistols" with a nice round-faced lock much like Chambers small round-faced English lock.  The only superficial difference is it lacks a pan bridle. 

dave

Title: Re: Germanic pistol locks?
Post by: rich pierce on January 22, 2021, 09:58:37 PM

Dave, my plan is to make a companion pistol for my .58 early rifle inspired by RCA 40. It will not have the sophistication of the European A. Albrecht pistol in Moravian Gunmaking II which does have a nice round faced lock. I’ve got a smallish, quite fancy Germanic flintlock from castings I got from Ron Scott (I think) but I’d prefer something plainer. Chris Hirsch is working on a Germanic pistol lock but it will be a while.


Ron Scott lock partially assembled. OAL about 4 and 5/8”
(https://i.ibb.co/bdwHXvV/B2-E158-AB-F252-4-CB2-8654-8-C00-B0-D01568.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MNw871H)

Title: Re: Germanic pistol locks?
Post by: Jim Kibler on January 22, 2021, 11:25:01 PM

I'm not sure but I seem to remember that Jack Brooks had a Germanic pistol lock casting set available.  This might work well for you. 

Jim

Title: Re: Germanic pistol locks?
Post by: cshirsch on May 14, 2021, 03:49:41 PM

Quote from: rich pierce on January 22, 2021, 09:58:37 PM

Dave, my plan is to make a companion pistol for my .58 early rifle inspired by RCA 40. It will not have the sophistication of the European A. Albrecht pistol in Moravian Gunmaking II which does have a nice round faced lock. I’ve got a smallish, quite fancy Germanic flintlock from castings I got from Ron Scott (I think) but I’d prefer something plainer. Chris Hirsch is working on a Germanic pistol lock but it will be a while.


Ron Scott lock partially assembled. OAL about 4 and 5/8”
(https://i.ibb.co/bdwHXvV/B2-E158-AB-F252-4-CB2-8654-8-C00-B0-D01568.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MNw871H)

I have the parts in stock for the German Pistol lock.   
(https://i.ibb.co/n0XhHPy/germanpistol1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vBN27XW)

Title: Re: Germanic pistol locks?
Post by: Craig Wilcox on May 15, 2021, 12:34:26 AM

Rich, I got a pair of locks from Stan Hollenbaugh - his "Ditchburn" J. P. Beck lock.  Ideal size for a pistol at 4 3/16" x 3/4".  Great sparker.  Curved lock plate.

Title: Re: Germanic pistol locks?
Post by: Ted Kramer on May 15, 2021, 01:32:24 AM

Check out the castings from www.texasguntrade.com
Click on ‘Antique Gun Parts’ to get to the lock part sets

Title: Re: Germanic pistol locks?
Post by: rich pierce on May 15, 2021, 01:43:48 AM

Thanks fellas. I’ve got some castings for a slightly larger lock. Waiting on a drilling template.