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Title: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: B.Barker on May 21, 2021, 04:28:45 AM
I've had some free time from babysitting and have spent some time in the shop. I made the patchbox and have it just about inlet into the stock. I was hoping to get the trigger guard forged out this week to but not sure it will happen. I went and got my first vaccine shot today and maybe feeling rotten tomorrow.
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Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Cades Cove Fiddler on May 21, 2021, 04:59:50 AM
 ;) ;)...  Yep Brian,.... sure looks like a buzzard,... !!!!,... keep posting progress,... I have never seen any of your work I didn't like,... !!!! ... CCF
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: B.Barker on May 21, 2021, 06:21:35 AM
"I have never seen any of your work I didn't like,... !!!! ... CCF."  Boy O boy I have. ;D
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: David Rase on May 21, 2021, 06:47:02 AM
Some big boy in Paris, KY is salivating right now.
David
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Craig Wilcox on May 21, 2021, 12:44:39 PM
No buzzards in North America - only vultures.  Red head = turkey vulture, black head = black vulture.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Stoner creek on May 21, 2021, 03:57:06 PM
Gotta love it.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: B.Barker on May 21, 2021, 05:42:38 PM
Here in Kentucky we call em bzzards.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Cades Cove Fiddler on May 21, 2021, 05:50:28 PM
 :o :o :o.... Craig,... don't know where you are from, but I never heard a buzzard called a "vulture" until I was a grown man and met a lady from California who had moved here to Tennessee and called a buzzard a "vulture",.... still don't know why she called it that,.. !!! .... regards,... CCF
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: bama on May 21, 2021, 06:01:58 PM
Yep, I know a bunch of Buzzards. I seen several of them circling in TN a few weeks ago.  ;D

That is going to be a great rifle Brian.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: ScottNE on May 21, 2021, 06:19:18 PM
:o :o :o.... Craig,... don't know where you are from, but I never heard a buzzard called a "vulture" until I was a grown man and met a lady from California who had moved here to Tennessee and called a buzzard a "vulture",.... still don't know why she called it that,.. !!! .... regards,... CCF

Here in Massachusetts there’s a bay called Buzzard’s Bay, but everybody calls the birds “vultures”. A few gents I worked with from the rural south referred to them as “buzzards”, though, and a man from rural Virginia called hawks “buzzards” as well. Seems I hear many southern folks say things like “down in the holler” still, whereas most people up here couldn’t identify that geographical feature whether it’s called a “holler” or a “hollow”.

I would guess that “buzzard” was the term generally used by the English and Scotch who settled North America, and is still the norm in regions where their cultural influence hasn’t been completely eroded, whereas in most parts of the country where local differences in accent, lexicon, etc have been pretty much entirely erased, people say “vulture.” I’m no etymologist though.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Clark Badgett on May 21, 2021, 07:23:17 PM
The term buzzard is commonly used in Kentucky and Indiana. We got great big buzzards.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Joey R on May 21, 2021, 07:26:25 PM
Call buzzards buzzards here in Indiana also. I kinda like the name “Buzzard Rifle”
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on May 21, 2021, 07:32:50 PM
I do not know if there is or is not a bird species whose name is "buzzard".  I have a feeling that it is a colloquialism for a vulture.  As an example, we call gulls here "garbage geese" or "$#!++ hawks", but I know you won't find those terms used in "Birds of North America".
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Craig Wilcox on May 21, 2021, 07:51:11 PM
Awww - I call 'em buzzards too, but as a once-professional wildlife biologist, gotta get my pitch in someplace!  It is just a taxonomic differentiation for ornithologists.

Really think most folks except bird watchers call the beasts "buzzards".  The clean-up team, for sure, and they do a great job of taking care of road kills.  Up close, they really have an odor to them.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Daryl on May 21, 2021, 07:57:34 PM
One old gal at a farm where we used to shoot gophers, used to say, "you boys (in our 60's) did pretty good. I can tell by the number of buzzards that come
to feed."  She was talking about crows and ravens.
We do have Turkey Vultures now & have had those since about 2006 or so.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Seth Isaacson on May 21, 2021, 08:39:28 PM
No buzzards in North America - only vultures.  Red head = turkey vulture, black head = black vulture.

When has that ever stopped us creative Americans from calling things whatever we want?  ;D I went to high school in Orion (pronounced Or Ee In), work outside of Milan (pronounced My-len), etc. I never new buzzards were turkey vultures until I was an adult. We see them a lot in Illinois and Iowa. There is a sandbar near Buzzard's Ridge along the Maquoketa River that has been our designated lunch stop when canoeing since I was a toddler.

I look forward to seeing the completed rifle Brian. It's going to be a neat one.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Marcruger on May 21, 2021, 09:22:44 PM
Even partly finished, I can see a lot to like in that architecture Brian. Can't wait to see it finished.  God Bless,   Marc
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: axelp on May 21, 2021, 10:15:30 PM
My father who was a lifelong native of Northern California (the real Northern California, Modoc County) called them "Turkey Buzzards." Probably a mixture of "California-speak", and Indiana since Grandpa was born in Knox County, Indiana.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: pilot on May 21, 2021, 11:33:39 PM
In England, the term "buzzard" refers to a bird like our Redtailed Hawk.  Here, the term is indeed a colloquialism. 

A pair of Turkey Vultures uses the crawl space under my hunting cabin as a nest of sorts.  They raised two chicks there last summer.  I haven't checked on them this year.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: martin9 on May 21, 2021, 11:37:35 PM
I really like the architecture of that gun. What lock is that?
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: WadePatton on May 21, 2021, 11:42:38 PM
Here in Kentucky we call em bzzards.
As do we in Tennessee.

Have a friend out west nicknamed "Vulture".  I can't get used to that word--I has to call him "Buzzard" or his real name.

Also, the head coloration only applies to adults.  The Black Buzzards are such a pest our state officially neglects to prosecute anyone killing them-despite the fed regs.   Black ones have white wingtips when viewed from the underside, also a stockier body and a slightly narrower wingspan than the Turkey buzzards. Turkeys have the wide white band underneath from side to side along the back edge of the wingspread.

Scientific nomenclature is the safest bet when precision is needed, but I love the colors of dialects and common names (when not doing research of course).  :P

back to the buzzard box.  ;D
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Clark Badgett on May 22, 2021, 01:12:53 AM
Is that article on the rifle from the Novermber 2007 MB issue? Couldn't fully make it out.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: B.Barker on May 22, 2021, 02:21:48 AM
I think it's 2007, not sure and don't feel like walking over to the shop today. I also never heard a groundhog called a wood chuck until I was half way through grade school.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Stoner creek on May 22, 2021, 02:32:29 AM
We’ve called them buzzards for as long as I can remember. Besides, we’re calling this one the “puking buzzard”.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: oldtravler61 on May 22, 2021, 03:30:17 AM
Northern Michigan we call them buzzards.
Funniest thing I seen was to Turkey hunters trying to sneak up on five of them in a field.
Guess those city folk didn't know the difference. Watched them from two hundred yards away. The buzzards were feeding on a road kill. We laughed our buts off.    Oldtravler
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Cades Cove Fiddler on May 22, 2021, 03:57:54 AM
 :D :D :D... Wayne,... my late uncle who went through two wars as a NCO in the 101st Airborne Div. fondly called that emblem on his division shoulder patch, the "pukin' buzzard", .... !!!
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Shooterj2003 on May 22, 2021, 05:07:03 AM
I live in ny now but always called them either one interchangeably,I was brought up mostly in the south,but most people here use both words.
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Craig Wilcox on May 22, 2021, 06:18:27 PM
Those turkey buzzards are fairly smart - whole gang of them journey south in the winter, spend their time around Tampa and Sarasota.  Get whole herds (flocks) of them.  I think they like the "tourists" from Michigan and Illinois.  Don't take naps around them!

Would really like to hear more about the rifle.  How is it coming along?
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: hanshi on May 22, 2021, 08:27:56 PM
Well, being an original Georgia Cracker I've always called and heard them called "buzzards".  And yes, I do know what they actually are but it makes no difference to me.  My grandmother called them - a lot of people did - "carrion crows" (pronounced "kyarn crow" in the deep South).  And that Buzzard Rifle would make a fine companion to my famous "Buzzard's Breath Chili".
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: WadePatton on May 22, 2021, 11:06:41 PM
Well, being an original Georgia Cracker I've always called and heard them called "buzzards".  And yes, I do know what they actually are but it makes no difference to me.  My grandmother called them - a lot of people did - "carrion crows" (pronounced "kyarn crow" in the deep South).  And that Buzzard Rifle would make a fine companion to my famous "Buzzard's Breath Chili".

I always wondered how to spell "kyarn" because I heard it many times.

Another expressive exclamation of the South is "Hee-yow!"  And after turning that one 'round in my head a few times, I sorted out that it was a contracted version of "Here now!" which sounds ridiculous if you grew up hearing things like:

  HEE-YOW!  get away from them buzzards before you get kyarn all over yourself and hafta sleep in the shed 'til the smell wears off.

 ;D
Title: Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
Post by: Nordnecker on May 23, 2021, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: WadePatton link=topic=65974.

  [i
HEE-YOW[/i]!  get away from them buzzards before you get kyarn all over yourself and hafta sleep in the shed 'til the smell wears off.

 ;D
I'm gonna have to remember that one ;)