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General discussion => Contemporary Longrifle Collecting => Topic started by: Killerangel on December 18, 2021, 06:36:17 AM

Title: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Killerangel on December 18, 2021, 06:36:17 AM
 My new, first muzzleloader.
(https://i.ibb.co/Cv23c1Z/LR1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RPykFvm)

(https://i.ibb.co/8MMLX79/LR2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6YY7NWF)

(https://i.ibb.co/5KkcyRy/LR3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nPBkvLv)

(https://i.ibb.co/W6JPf8k/LR4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KXvLW42)

(https://i.ibb.co/Y0Rd8q2/LR5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vXwdmK1)

(https://i.ibb.co/vx8hZdH/LR6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5WVkBj6)

(https://i.ibb.co/54FPV5x/LR7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zxJzwSH)

(https://i.ibb.co/3cB00RS/LR8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DQ577rw)

(https://i.ibb.co/YkJc0W0/LR9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LtBxNPN)

(https://i.ibb.co/hBzytPs/LR10.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wSmRx9y)

(https://i.ibb.co/ThMD5kr/LR12.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MNkyLs9)
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: rich pierce on December 18, 2021, 07:13:55 AM
I bet you’re a very happy camper!  Sure looks finely carved.
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Post by: wattlebuster on December 18, 2021, 02:40:39 PM
Thats quite a first. Beautiful. Give us some specs if ya dont mind
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Dutch Blacky on December 18, 2021, 05:13:18 PM
A really fine and beautiful rifle.

I' m rather curious who made it?
Caliber?
Barrel maker and length?
Lock maker ?
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Telgan on December 18, 2021, 08:45:33 PM
Looks like you did pretty well - Nice piece of wood
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Killerangel on December 19, 2021, 02:19:09 AM
A really fine and beautiful rifle.

I' m rather curious who made it?
Caliber?
Barrel maker and length?
Lock maker ?

Thats quite a first. Beautiful. Give us some specs if ya dont mind


Was a highly modified Kibler Kit with a builder's piece of wood, modified Chambers lock, Rice .54 caliber barrel and a lot of carving and shaping. Gun was supposed to be for someone else....but the deal fell through a while ago....so the gun sat unfinished for some time. It was stocked, in-the-white, and un-carved when I first had the opportunity to negotiate a completion by the maker, Chris Laubach. It is stained with asphaltum and finished with melted beeswax. A fortunate circumstance for me to say the least.
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: jmf on December 19, 2021, 03:17:22 AM
Very fortunate for sure. Only problem being its too nice to take hunting.
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Post by: Miles42 on December 19, 2021, 05:43:08 AM
I think this is beautiful. You should be proud to own it.
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Dutch Blacky on December 19, 2021, 10:36:41 AM
Very fortunate for sure. Only problem being its too nice to take hunting.

This gun is too nice not to take it hunting. If it would be only a "wallhanger" you could also pin a poster of the gun  at the wall.  8)
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: heinz on December 19, 2021, 02:35:04 PM
Veery nice.  Mr Laubach built a great rifle.  This one was born to use, use it.
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: D. Taylor Sapergia on December 19, 2021, 10:39:07 PM
Lovely rifle for certain!  I like the way the forestock has been trimmed down to expose more than half of the side flat of the barrel...really slims out the forestock.
Outstanding and unusual finishing work, and very attractive.  Every time I see one of these Colonial rifles from Kibler, I get worked into a lather.  Got to add one to my stable.
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: smart dog on December 20, 2021, 01:37:35 AM
Hi,
You have a nice rifle.  Chris is a great gun maker.

dave
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: snapper on December 20, 2021, 02:14:56 AM
It is an outstanding rifle.

Just as a FYI, just in case you are going to use the Tipton cleaning rods I see on your bench for your ML.   DONT!

I used mine in a match once and the carbon fiber rod broke off just above the jag when the jag was at the bottom of the barrel.  I  pulled the plug to get the jag out.   

I called Tipton just as a FYI and the gal was not surprised, kinda acted like she had heard that before.

So, I no long use mine for a ML.

Fleener
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Killerangel on December 20, 2021, 03:55:16 AM
It is an outstanding rifle.

Just as a FYI, just in case you are going to use the Tipton cleaning rods I see on your bench for your ML.   DONT!

I used mine in a match once and the carbon fiber rod broke off just above the jag when the jag was at the bottom of the barrel.  I  pulled the plug to get the jag out.   

I called Tipton just as a FYI and the gal was not surprised, kinda acted like she had heard that before.

So, I no long use mine for a ML.

Fleener


In pic #2 you can see the Hickory rod I built....and the tip of the heavy duty stainless one I purchased from Rice.
I'm learning from a few great flintlock shooters here in Lancaster County.....luckily going to avoid alot of learning curve mistakes....but not all.
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Srkmarine1101 on December 20, 2021, 04:29:49 AM
What a fine rifle.  I bet she shoots nice!
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: alacran on December 20, 2021, 03:49:48 PM
Beautifull first gun. Beautifull if it was your 20th gun. Take it hunting!
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Killerangel on December 20, 2021, 06:15:08 PM
Very fortunate for sure. Only problem being its too nice to take hunting.

This gun is too nice not to take it hunting. If it would be only a "wallhanger" you could also pin a poster of the gun  at the wall.  8)

I bought this rifle to hunt with.
That's what it is for. Will also get involved in some fun competitions locally too.
It's going to take a lot of practice!!!!!!
But it's more fun than any other form of shooting in my humble opinion.
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: wmrike on December 20, 2021, 08:00:00 PM
What a sharp rifle!  I see that the rear sight has been moved forward on the barrel - my kind of an arrangement for old eyes.  Is that some sort of a filler residing where the rear sight would normally go?
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Dutch Blacky on December 20, 2021, 08:05:31 PM
Very fortunate for sure. Only problem being its too nice to take hunting.

This gun is too nice not to take it hunting. If it would be only a "wallhanger" you could also pin a poster of the gun  at the wall.  8)

I bought this rifle to hunt with.
That's what it is for. Will also get involved in some fun competitions locally too.
It's going to take a lot of practice!!!!!!
But it's more fun than any other form of shooting in my humble opinion.


(https://i.ibb.co/z2C3hFw/thumbs-up.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Killerangel on December 22, 2021, 04:03:26 AM
What a sharp rifle!  I see that the rear sight has been moved forward on the barrel - my kind of an arrangement for old eyes.  Is that some sort of a filler residing where the rear sight would normally go?

The sight was moved after I took delivery. My old eyes could not even see the rear notch when I focused on the front sight...so I moved it forward 6 inches. I asked Chris if he would fill the old notch. This is what a man crazy about his work did: Chris made the filler by hand. He hand drew a stencil on paper....traced it on a sheet of steel...cut it, then shaped, beveled, and notched the border of the design by hand with his needle files. He then hand riveted it to another piece of steel that he had filed a "male" dovetail into. Then he browned the piece. The new piece fit where the sight sat originally. I was blown away as he was texting me pictures of his progress on this seemingly small project. Took him several hours to make. When he suggested something like this, I knew just enough to shut up and stay ourt of his way.

Here's some better pics:



(https://i.ibb.co/z55dnds/filler1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8BBkKkM)



(https://i.ibb.co/Z8sYFK4/filler2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qsGWc9q)
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: hanshi on December 22, 2021, 11:31:57 PM
Be still, my heart!
(https://i.ibb.co/qpJKv0W/200w-7.webp)
(https://i.ibb.co/cvzqmJM/download-17.jpg)
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Bull Shannon on December 24, 2021, 09:13:49 AM
Really a nice rifle that anyone would be proud to have in their collection
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Dphariss on December 25, 2021, 05:22:43 AM
Fine rifle everything nicely done.
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: B Shipman on December 30, 2021, 07:27:01 AM
A lot better than my first. 
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Daryl on December 30, 2021, 11:21:08 PM
That is REALLY nice.

My new first muzzleloader, other than the cannons we made when kids, was a .50 TC Hawkens.
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: ed lundquist on December 31, 2021, 05:12:12 AM
Aces!
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Post by: Mike from OK on December 31, 2021, 06:04:32 AM
A fine piece indeed!

Mike
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: BillKilgore on January 22, 2022, 06:41:45 PM
That is GORGEOUS! The carving and inlays are stunning. Congratulations.
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: bones92 on January 26, 2022, 05:09:18 PM
Wow, that's gorgeous.   

Just curious... does the filler piece Chris made affect your ability to see the sights?  I would have assumed a filler piece that was flush with the barrel, so as not to interfere with sighting.
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: BillKilgore on April 09, 2022, 04:29:49 PM
That is a stunning rifle.  Enjoy it in good health.
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: oldtravler61 on April 09, 2022, 06:03:08 PM
  Absolutely outstanding rifle with beautiful gun stock...!!!
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: J. Talbert on April 14, 2022, 07:21:18 AM
Very nice rifle!

I love the patch for the original sight dovetail.  I never would have thought of that but it really works. 👍

Jeff
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: J.M.Browning on April 15, 2022, 05:01:30 AM
Very well done Flintlock you should be very happy !
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: hawkeye on April 21, 2022, 08:30:50 PM
Outstanding piece and very nice executed.
Nice insert for old sight replacement
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: 83nubnEC on April 30, 2022, 10:37:16 PM
My 1st was also a T/C Hawken in a 54 cal kit back in 1979.. I often wonder where muzzleloading would be with out the T/C Hawken.  Over 1 million sold, so it would have had to have had a major effect on where we are today in muzzleloading. Still a great shooting rifle!
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: GameStalker on May 10, 2022, 03:23:50 AM
It really is a pleasure to look all over it!
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: DavidC on May 10, 2022, 01:25:55 PM
Assuming he still has the same sight as a regular Kibler they would stand high enough the plug piece would not be visible.

Man, you really have to respect a guy who would put so much work into his craft!
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Bob Gerard on May 17, 2022, 02:33:54 PM
Thanks for posting these photos and the info on this gun. It’s wonderful.
Posts like this inspire me.
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: frankie on May 24, 2022, 04:05:29 AM
what a way to start. very nice
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Eddie Southgate on May 27, 2022, 01:20:13 AM
If that's your first I'm gonna be almost scared to see what you will come up with for you second . That is fine .
Title: Re: My New, First, Muzzleloader.
Post by: Bull Shannon on May 27, 2022, 01:50:02 AM
If that's your first I'm gonna be almost scared to see what you will come up with for you second . That is fine .
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