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General discussion => Antique Gun Collecting => Topic started by: cshirsch on June 21, 2023, 04:43:51 PM

Title: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: cshirsch on June 21, 2023, 04:43:51 PM: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
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Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: smylee grouch on June 21, 2023, 05:34:37 PM: Bling from the past. Nice gun from a talented maker.
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Post by: Avlrc on June 21, 2023, 06:30:48 PM: Nice engraving.
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: Tanselman on June 21, 2023, 07:09:54 PM: It looks like a superb New York rifle, very fine work. The engraved images are well-cut and great... made for a wealthy owner in the 1850s. Great find to get one like this in original condition... no modern "clean up" or enhancements, and I hope you keep it like that. It's a little hard to see the wood, but it looks like curly walnut in the butt... another up-scale detail on a rifle like this. I'm a little jealous.

Shelby Gallien
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: ntqlvr1948 on June 21, 2023, 07:31:13 PM: I love attic finds
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Post by: johngross on June 21, 2023, 08:32:38 PM: (https://bicontent.businessinsurance.com/b9ec071d-7edd-402e-90d8-745b810e8a93.jpg)
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: Robby on June 21, 2023, 09:33:25 PM: Love it!!!!
Robby
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: cshirsch on June 23, 2023, 01:36:04 AM: Quote from: Tanselman on June 21, 2023, 07:09:54 PM
It looks like a superb New York rifle, very fine work. The engraved images are well-cut and great... made for a wealthy owner about 1850. Great find to get one like this in original condition... no modern "clean up" or enhancements, and I hope you keep it like that. It's a little hard to see the wood, but it looks like curly walnut in the butt... another up-scale detail on a rifle like this. I'm a little jealous.

Shelby Gallien

You are probably correct about New York. The wood is highly figured walnut.
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: Metequa on June 25, 2023, 06:53:35 PM: very nice rifle, but the engraving really seems to stand out as being quite exceptional!
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Post by: Yazel.xring on June 26, 2023, 09:00:11 PM: Beautiful! Glad it was found.
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Post by: 2 shots on July 02, 2023, 11:53:35 PM: im heading up to my attic right now. :)
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: JTR on July 02, 2023, 11:57:02 PM: What a nice find!
In your attic?
John
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: Bob Roller on July 03, 2023, 04:31:55 PM: Outstanding rifle and it shows decoration minus the absurd gaudiness seen on some.WHO made it?
Bob Roller
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: Arcturus on July 04, 2023, 07:59:16 AM: Nice piece of history, indeed. I'm always a little perplexed as to why the engravings on all of the 18th and 19th Century guns showing deer look more like European stags. It's as if none of these guys ever saw a whitetail deer and how their antlers have a mainbeam with tines... Is it a traditional European image they are emulating, were they ignorant of North American animals, or were they just way better at metal and wood work than they were at drawing a realistic image?
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: cshirsch on July 04, 2023, 02:36:25 PM: Quote from: Bob Roller on July 03, 2023, 04:31:55 PM
Outstanding rifle and it shows decoration minus the absurd gaudiness seen on some.WHO made it?
Bob Roller

Hey Bob, the rifle is not signed/stamped by the maker.
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: cshirsch on July 04, 2023, 02:46:58 PM: Quote from: JTR on July 02, 2023, 11:57:02 PM
What a nice find!
In your attic?
John

No, that was the story when I bought it.
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: Bob Roller on July 06, 2023, 08:47:19 PM: Quote from: Bob Roller on July 03, 2023, 04:31:55 PM
Outstanding rifle and it shows decoration minus the absurd gaudiness seen on some.WHO made it?
Bob Roller
I just saw the post saying it's unsigned.How about the lock or under the barrel?

Bob Roller
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: 5judge on July 07, 2023, 04:01:37 AM: (https://i.ibb.co/Lh4dFXy/outstanding2.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: TDM on July 18, 2023, 07:38:17 PM: Awesome find!
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Post by: D. Buck Stopshere on July 22, 2023, 12:56:55 AM: I have a similar rifle with the same furniture and inlays on the left cheek and flanking the buttplate that I bought at a local auction.

When I showed my photos to Frank House at the 2022 CLA Show, he seemed to point to New York for its birth. The barrel on mine was cleaned of patina, and about 6” of its length at the breech, was loped off to likely remove pitting there. Unfortunately, the removed section probably had the maker’s name or initials on the top flat.

Does NY have a longrifle collectors association and/or a gunmakers book series similar to the Association of Ohio Long Rifle Collectors books?

I’ll post photos soon.
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: oldtravler61 on July 22, 2023, 03:09:36 AM: Lucky find indeed.. Only thing in attic is dust..
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Post by: godutch on September 06, 2023, 11:06:51 PM: I just came across this thread from awhile back and being from NY I'd love to believe it was made here. But my first impression before I even read the posts was, German and probably from there based on the artwork and high level of execution in particular. Unless, possibly, it was made in the Mohawk Valley which was still heavily German at the time. In which case a very talented, formally trained man built this in this style and in that area. Which is of course possible. I'm really just curious about this one and have no 'axe to grind' either way. To me it's just so.., well, German. The only thing missing seems to be a boar in the engraving. Thanks, Fred
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Post by: Daryl on September 06, 2023, 11:27:20 PM: Euro background makes total sense, given the stags.
Title: Re: Nice rifle unrestored, found in an attic.
Post by: TDM on September 14, 2023, 07:09:59 AM: Beautiful rifle. I’m going to look through my attic just in case.