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Title: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Daniel Coats on May 02, 2025, 08:05:13 PM
We were talking about this rifle a couple months ago. Hammer price just now before fees $80,000.

Photo courtesy of Rock Island Auction

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Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: rich pierce on May 02, 2025, 08:34:48 PM
Wow I thought an S Hawken would not go that high. Bias on my part.
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: redheart on May 02, 2025, 10:14:30 PM
Where's the photo?
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Avlrc on May 02, 2025, 10:42:30 PM
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4094/175/s-hawken-st-louis-signed-fullstock-percussion-rifle
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Gtrubicon on May 02, 2025, 11:03:26 PM
Holy moly
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: snapper on May 02, 2025, 11:35:13 PM
Well shoot.   I quess I was not the high bidder.

Fleener
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Stoner creek on May 02, 2025, 11:45:42 PM
It’s good to see that there are a few high rollers still out there.
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Daniel Coats on May 03, 2025, 12:27:50 AM
It’s good to see that there are a few high rollers still out there.

Hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, hmmm, I love this bar
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: EGG17601 on May 03, 2025, 12:35:46 AM
Would have been willing to go that high, but those fees were a major deterrent.
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Daniel Coats on May 03, 2025, 01:30:42 AM
Yes the cheapest out the door price IF you lived in Texas attended the auction in person and paid cash would still be over $102,000.
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: BigSkyRambler on May 03, 2025, 06:15:36 PM
I watched that one just for fun. It's wild watching the bids climb.
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Jim Kibler on May 03, 2025, 06:40:29 PM
Hawken fever!
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Eric Kettenburg on May 03, 2025, 07:20:19 PM
I do have to say that is a VERY cool looking Hawken.  I like that much better than a comparable half stock.
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Bob Roller on May 03, 2025, 09:53:31 PM
The big hoot and giggle would be if it turned out to be a Tom Dawson replica ;D ;D.Has anyone here ever wondered what it would be like to be able ti write a check and have the bank bounce instead of the check?

Bob Roller
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: mountainman70 on May 03, 2025, 11:33:47 PM
Bob, I believe if any here could, you be top o da list!!
I wrote one for something else ninety grand.
Aint got that now and glad of it
Best regards to all yall
BtwDaniel,
I love this barrrrr too.
One of my favs from another time, not so long ago!
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: JTR on May 04, 2025, 12:22:13 AM
That price bodes well for maintaining the value for these Hawkins! Also sounds like two old geezers trying to outdo the size of each others pouch! :-)
Me, I'd rather take the bucks and use it for partial payment on a new Italian sports car!  ;D 8) ;D
John
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Seth Isaacson on May 06, 2025, 04:54:56 PM
Here is the one from last weekend:
(https://cdn.rockislandauction.com/dev_cdn/4094/175.jpg)


(https://cdn.rockislandauction.com/dev_cdn/88/3209.jpg)
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/88/3209/s-hawken-signed-fullstock-percussion-rifle
That one brought $120,000.

Clearly there is some real demand for full-stock Hawkens!
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Avlrc on May 06, 2025, 06:33:24 PM
Other than some historical significance, I don't understand the prices these plain utilitarian rifles fetch. Did Hatchet Jack cause this?  Maybe some day I will be enlightened. I would much rather have  Christian Hawken, which was made in Hagerstown, Maryland.
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: 120RIR on May 06, 2025, 08:51:20 PM
John...or, you could just sell your fancy Jeep and get a half-way decent Hawken.  Are you already missing the obscene speed you could get out of that Ferrari?   ;)
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Jim Kibler on May 06, 2025, 09:22:48 PM
Other than some historical significance, I don't understand the prices these plain utilitarian rifles fetch. Did Hatchet Jack cause this?  Maybe some day I will be enlightened. I would much rather have  Christian Hawken, which was made in Hagerstown, Maryland.

Yeah!!!
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: smart dog on May 06, 2025, 10:28:38 PM
Hi,
What a great historical piece but definitely not my cup of tea regardless of price.  Like single malt Laphroig scotch, it is an acquired taste.

dave
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: smylee grouch on May 06, 2025, 11:09:32 PM
Gee Wiz. Years ago I thought I would like to own an John or Joe Manton.  I wonder what they might fetch ?b :-\
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: JTR on May 07, 2025, 12:13:29 AM
John...or, you could just sell your fancy Jeep and get a half-way decent Hawken.  Are you already missing the obscene speed you could get out of that Ferrari?   ;)
;D I really like the Jeep, but a 296gtb would look nice in my garage! ;D
Going for a ride with Mike D on the 17th.
And I agree, a nice C. Hawken would look great hanging on the wall!
John
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: smart dog on May 07, 2025, 01:23:32 AM
Gee Wiz. Years ago I thought I would like to own an John or Joe Manton.  I wonder what they might fetch ?b :-\

Hi Smylee,
Right now in Britain they go might go pretty cheap.

dave
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Avlrc on May 07, 2025, 03:36:49 AM
Hi,
What a great historical piece but definitely not my cup of tea regardless of price.  Like single malt Laphroig scotch, it is an acquired taste.

dave
I must be too easy, I acquired a taste for the smoky stuff before I drank the contents below neck level.  :)
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Mule Brain on May 10, 2025, 05:17:07 PM
I am always on the hunt! Not at them prices however
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Seth Isaacson on May 13, 2025, 04:45:54 PM
Gee Wiz. Years ago I thought I would like to own an John or Joe Manton.  I wonder what they might fetch ?b :-\

What kind? Cased pistols? Shotgun? Half-stock rifle? Some of the Manton guns are certainly very expensive, but there are often examples that a fairly reasonable.:
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4094/3305/engraved-joseph-manton-early-percussion-double-barrel-shotgun
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/4094/3313/engraved-joseph-manton-son-double-barrel-percussion-shotgun
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: moseswhite on May 14, 2025, 08:55:01 AM
If it actually sold ?
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: Seth Isaacson on May 15, 2025, 12:45:48 AM
If what sold? The Hawken. Yes, the price realized of $94,000 is listed on the website.
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: smokinbuck on August 28, 2025, 11:56:01 PM
That was a great looking Hawkin but for the price I'm happy with the one ken Netting made for me, copied from an original. Walnut stock cut in 1946, Bill Large barrel and all hardware made by Eddie Myers including brazed butt plat lock and triggers.
Title: Re: Original Hawken Sold At Auction 05-02-2025
Post by: reddogge on September 11, 2025, 01:08:44 AM
I've posted pictures before taken in the 80s of a Christian Hawken rifle a friend of mine owned. A rare bird I would think.