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Offline wildcatter

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Trying to get some opinions on this one
« on: April 08, 2014, 05:07:47 PM »
Below are some pictures of a rifle I can't seem to figure out. It was acquired in South Carolina from a family in the upstate. All the furniture is iron, I think, except the trigger guard may be silver and the barrel keys are wooden? I can't pin down any solid characteristics look for some help.









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Re: Trying to get some opinions on this one
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2014, 12:32:31 AM »
A magnet should help with the triggerguard material question. 

The buttplate and patchbox do not appear consistent with the triggerguard and breechplug finial, and my first thought was a restock, but I could easily be wrong.  My impression is the acorn is a recurring theme in western Virginia/West Virginia rifles, so there may be some connection.  But these are wild speculations.  I'd like to see a more knowledgeable response.

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Re: Trying to get some opinions on this one
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2014, 03:09:31 AM »
That side plate is a very odd shape....but obviously very intentionally so....initially I was thinking....what state is that a shape of...but doesn't seem close to any....maybe a particular county within a state? I would like to hear what those more knowledgeable think about it.

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Re: Trying to get some opinions on this one
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2014, 05:52:34 AM »
What did the upstate SC family you acquired it from know about it? 
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Re: Trying to get some opinions on this one
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2014, 03:57:17 PM »
Not much if I remember correctly, it's been about 10 years. Picked it up from a friend of mine in Anderson SC. His family has been in the state since 1800's and the gun supposedly was I the family for years.  I pulled it out of my chest over the weekend to let it breathe a little since it hasn't seen light in about 2 years. When I looked at it all the questions came back to me so I posted it on here.
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Re: Trying to get some opinions on this one
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2014, 04:31:28 AM »
I would like to say that all though the rifle has a acorn patchbox it has no characteristics of a Hampshire county West Virginia/ Virginia rifle. A rifle of that period from that area wouldn't have a release in the toe, most all were friction lid box's , the finial of the box isn't consistent with the area as well as the forearm, or lock panels. How ever I do believe it might have some identity with the southern part of the Shenandoah  valley and North Carolina. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

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Re: Trying to get some opinions on this one
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2014, 04:52:45 AM »
That's a great rifle. I hope you figure out where it came from.
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Re: Trying to get some opinions on this one
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2014, 04:54:17 PM »
I've seen that same hardware before, and the fact it's a Cap Lock narrows things down, I bet somebody will see these picks here and know just what it is.  Might be in the Foxfire Books I seen it.
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Re: Trying to get some opinions on this one
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2014, 08:07:59 PM »
Ya know, this may be way off base, but I have to tell you guys anyway.

That rifle sure looks like a few I handled that were made in California back in the 1855-1870 era.
In fact it's nearly identical.

Is it possible that rifle somehow made its way east instead of being made in the east?

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Re: Trying to get some opinions on this one
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2014, 05:23:04 AM »
I am not seeing anything that strikes me as Southern. That may mean that it is just that.   :D
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