help identifying old flintlock pistols

[muddywaters]

first one looks like a british sea service but is marked "duke of york across barrel"
brander and potts lock with lots of proof marks .. looks like the trigger guard is bent and not original ram rod






here is the second one. no markings on lock or barrel visible

[Mike Brooks]

The first is British and has been connected with the Duke of York's estate back in the day. Some kind of a servants pistol.
 The second is probably Dutch, 1720-ish.

[muddywaters]

thanks mate!!

[smart dog]

Hi Muddy,
Branders and Potts worked near the Minories in London between 1802-1827.  They were contractors to the British Ordnance department.  I agree with you that it may be a sea service pistol.  There was an HMS Duke of York during the 1760s but also 2 commercially built armed ships of that name hired by the Royal Navy at the end of the 18th century and early in the 19th century.

dave

[muddywaters]

Thanks ! Why duke of York inscribed ? Value ?

[smart dog]

Hi,
Maybe it was inscribed "Duke of York" to signify it was from one of those ships.

dave